Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: In 3, 2, 1. I know. You see?
Do you remember? They did the countdown.
[00:00:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I. Callie, welcome.
I wasn't ready for that one.
[00:00:22] Speaker A: I know. A little shock every now and then does the body good.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: Me awake.
[00:00:29] Speaker A: It is. What's the time? Wow, it's an hour and a half after we said we were going to start.
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Hola. Hi, welcome. Yes. To our podcast. Our Isai. On today's podcast, we're doing a full on anime.
It's an anime day.
[00:00:44] Speaker A: It's like, yeah, it's an anime day. Fully anime. Every single section. Anime, anime, anime. We're like the first one, anime. The second one we gave you a little something and then the next one we just thought, yeah, we might as.
[00:00:54] Speaker B: Well keep the theme, you know, do.
[00:00:58] Speaker A: The whole thing anime. So, yeah. Welcome to our podcast. Like she said, what do we do on this podcast?
[00:01:04] Speaker B: So we discuss anything we want, from our thoughts to our dreams to what we're watching. Current news, Reddit, things we found funny, you name it.
[00:01:11] Speaker A: Other people's podcasts.
[00:01:12] Speaker B: Oh, that too.
That's only like a tiny part of our conversation, to be honest.
[00:01:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Actually, we don't really talk about the podcast that, like, we listen to independently.
[00:01:21] Speaker B: No.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah. That's interesting.
[00:01:23] Speaker B: Why?
[00:01:23] Speaker A: I don't know.
I tend to listen to.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: Would you want to know more what I want to listen to outside of us?
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Well, lately, anyway, I should say I tend to. I've been listening to quite. Not political. I've been listening to a podcast called if Books Could Kill. It's been quite enlightening. They do like. They're doing like books in, like recent years that have kind of caused. Not kind of. That have caused harm to society. Really. Yeah. So it's. It's quite interesting. It's been interesting anyway.
But yeah, so, yeah, that's us in a nutshell. How about you?
[00:01:52] Speaker B: Actually, I'm currently into the cancel podcast.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:01:56] Speaker B: Because I don't think I'm really into pop culture like other people are into pop culture. So they're like my pop culture.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: Like, wait, this is the one with Tana, is it?
[00:02:04] Speaker B: Let me go to her. I don't know the names, to be honest. By now.
[00:02:07] Speaker A: Tana Montag.
[00:02:08] Speaker B: Let me go to.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: Please pardon my pronunciation, but I'm pretty sure that that's Tana. T A N A.
[00:02:14] Speaker B: That one.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: What's the names of the people on the pod?
[00:02:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: Host. Oh, no, it doesn't say anything about it Must be different then.
[00:02:33] Speaker B: Anyway, so, yeah, they talk about. People have been cancelled recently and reasons why but it's just like. It's a commentary on pop culture that is a set of just like his pop culture news. Oh, yeah.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: Okay, so like, they talk about specifically people that have been cancelled or.
[00:02:48] Speaker B: Well, they did an episode on North West.
Not that it was a commentary about how funny she is and how she keeps Kim humble, because that was the thing that was happening on TikTok north was brought on this earth to humble Kim. And they were doing a commentary on that.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: Okay, interesting, interesting. That's good. That's good. I saw the. The interview that she did. I think. I'm not sure if it was with Vogue or with a Variety maybe where she was like, Kim was like, look, it's her, it's not me. I promise, guys.
But yeah, anyway. But that's interesting.
[00:03:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:03:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, so introductions, Aunt Super Saiyan face. Obviously I'm gonna keep kicking every time.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: Do you have a problem with being a Super Saiyan?
[00:03:35] Speaker A: No, not.
[00:03:36] Speaker B: I hope not.
[00:03:37] Speaker A: And I'm overpowered. I don't know. Maybe I'm gonna be a villain. This episode we'll see. We channel.
[00:03:44] Speaker B: Okay, interesting.
[00:03:46] Speaker A: What's interesting now?
[00:03:48] Speaker B: It's okay, let's go on.
[00:03:49] Speaker A: Okay, so today we're gonna be doing like an anime. So Japanese anime versus Western animation. So like cartoons that we watched when we were growing up, really.
So we're not gonna be drawing like differences or we're not gonna be comparing them. We're not gonna be comparing the art. Maybe we might compare the art, but we're really mainly gonna be.
And similarities and things like that. No, critiques would just be like, oh, this kind of. Kind of mirrors this. Or this reminds me of this. Hahaha. Imagine if they were all in the same world type thing or however it is you want to see it. So we're back.
So as we were saying, anime, Japanese anime, Western animation.
Similarities, parallels and that.
Like an anime, Japanese anime that kind of reminds us of a western anime cartoon animation thing. And.
Yeah, so you go first and then I'll go.
[00:04:45] Speaker B: Okay.
My first one is gonna be Kokias and Arcane League of Legends. So they're both dystopias. Right. So there's two different worlds. Both are both bad for different reasons. Like there's no good side, if that makes sense.
[00:05:01] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:05:01] Speaker B: Yeah, because like, in Arcane you have top side and. And the Zorn, and then in Kirgass you have essentially the rich and like the people who inhabit the land already.
So.
[00:05:14] Speaker A: Okay, okay.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: But in Kogia, one, you do favor more than the other. That's the only difference. But they're both dystopias. And it's both about a power struggle and who's going to come up on top and who's going to be the over auction ruler of the. Of this said world, the book. We talk about inequalities. They talk about family dynamics. Because the main characters that we follow in Arcane are two sisters, and in Code Geass is the brother and sister that we follow. So because of my parallels and my similarities.
[00:05:43] Speaker A: Interesting, huh? So, like, okay, but like, Code Geass has like a main guy. Doesn't. And yes, kind of pushed to be the right guy.
[00:05:57] Speaker B: He's a main character, but we're sort of root for him, but also not rooted for him because he does kill people.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: And his ambitions are very selfish.
[00:06:07] Speaker A: Right. And that's the same as the one with the purple hair. Blue hair.
[00:06:11] Speaker B: Blue hair. Well, yeah, she does kill people, and her reasons for doing so are selfish. But there's also more of background because her parents were killed by the other side and that's why she.
[00:06:18] Speaker A: And it's kind of the same for this guy as well. Lelouch.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: Lelouch. But he's from the other side as well.
[00:06:24] Speaker A: He's from the other side. I thought he was mixed.
[00:06:27] Speaker B: Lelouch be Vampilar. Leuch would be Britannia. They're the same person. He's from the rich family. He got cast away.
[00:06:33] Speaker A: Ah, right.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: He got disowned.
[00:06:35] Speaker A: Fair, fair, fair, fair. Okay, let's see what else.
Arcane. They're very different art styles. Aren't they though?
[00:06:44] Speaker B: Yeah, well, it would be.
[00:06:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Obviously one's more recent than the other.
[00:06:48] Speaker B: That and they're different.
[00:06:49] Speaker A: The Lelouch one looks very similar to, like, Yu Gi.
[00:06:51] Speaker B: Oh, similar time period.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, interesting. He's a lot of people's favorite, like, characters.
[00:07:00] Speaker B: Like, honestly, as a main character, he gives it.
He is a good.
He gives the energy that you would expect of a main character.
[00:07:10] Speaker A: Fair.
[00:07:11] Speaker B: Like, he's arrogant. He's. He's ambitious. He has like the audacity to try things. And you look at him, you're like, you small boy. You're still in school. But I like you still.
[00:07:21] Speaker A: I hear that. You know, like, he's very cocky. Oh, my God. It's actually crazy.
But likable. That's why he doesn't do it in a you gotta hate him type of way.
[00:07:32] Speaker B: No, but his arrogance is just on the edge of being dickish.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: I hear that.
So my first Comparison is Archer vs Cowboy Bebop from what I know. This isn't the only place where Archer and Cowboy Bop is popping up.
[00:07:48] Speaker B: Really?
[00:07:50] Speaker A: I feel like you can bear Archer as well or something.
[00:07:52] Speaker B: Let me double check my life.
[00:07:54] Speaker A: I think you sent your list to me at some point.
Ah, yeah, okay. Yeah. So mine is Archer versus Cowboy Bebop. So they're both very, you know, very slick, very stylish. You know, they have like the. They have like a. I think, quite the similar. Humor. Humor. Ish. It's also kind of in a place of work where one is, like, more in the office and the other one is, like, I guess in an office. Was on a shit. On a spaceship and also with guns and shitting and all this cool stuff. So they gel together and in a way, they go on, like, missions right in the bus. And so do the people on Cowboy.
[00:08:37] Speaker B: Black Lagoon.
[00:08:39] Speaker A: Ooh la la.
[00:08:40] Speaker B: Because you love Black Lagoon.
[00:08:41] Speaker A: I love Black Lagoon. I didn't think of that.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: Once I was in Parallels. I was like, this sounds like a Black Lagoon, like, spinoff.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, okay, so one of the things I was gonna compare was Gangstar and Black Lagoon. Because it's, for me, it's the sense of, like, familiar.
They're doing odd jobs, but not quite. Yeah, they're doing odd jobs. And, like, there's insane shootouts and stuff in both of them. So that was what I was going to do. And, like, the characters are cool. The art style. Oh, my God, the storyline, great. And, like, one of the characters, he's got. He's Eren Impaired.
[00:09:22] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:09:23] Speaker A: In Gangstar, and he's just so fucking cool. I'm so sorry. And, like, there's, like, a storyline with, like, a lady of the night and her characters. Like, the character development there is just fantastic for all of them. It's just great. It's one of my favorite. It's literally one of my favorite animes, like, ever. That and Black Lagoon. But those are the two I was going. I was going to compare, but I've literally just done that, haven't I? But they're both anime, which was the issue that I had. But I didn't think.
No, I didn't think of comparing Blackliving and Archer, like, at all.
[00:09:57] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:09:57] Speaker A: Which is a real shame because they would have gone so well because they.
[00:10:00] Speaker B: Both go, like, mini tangents and have little missions and even, like, the pairings that we got. What's the girl in Black?
[00:10:06] Speaker A: Archer in Archer? Yeah, Lana.
[00:10:08] Speaker B: Lana. You got Lana and Revi. Like, they do comparisons as.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's actually so true.
Oh, Sh.
[00:10:15] Speaker B: Right.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: Damn. That was a missed opportunity there. It's okay.
[00:10:18] Speaker B: I got.
[00:10:19] Speaker A: Damn. Coming through, coming through. Well, you can cut that as one of mine. As a joint effort subsection.
[00:10:26] Speaker B: No, no, no, I gave it to you. So I'm going to cry out to one of mine as well.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: You should listen to yourself. He gave it to me, and I really need exact.
[00:10:40] Speaker B: Fine, fine, fine. Have you continued with your Archer and Cowboy Bebop?
[00:10:45] Speaker A: Yes. Archer and Cowboy Bebop. I like the comparison between, obviously, Spike and Archer himself. Forget the mum issue. Let's put that aside for Archer. They're both very cocky. They're both very, like, slick, and they like a girl, and it's kind of complicated.
[00:11:03] Speaker B: Okay, I'm gonna continue with the Archer theme.
[00:11:06] Speaker A: Oh, sorry, there's a little bit more.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: You have a list?
[00:11:09] Speaker A: I have a whole. Like, I got. I think I might have got a bit carried away. Okay, Right. Okay. So like I said, it's kind of slick. It's like Archer's retro and, like, the aesthetic is modern. And like the Seuss. Like the Seuss. Like the suits that they wear, both of them. And like, they're sassy, they're sarcastic, they're very. They give it. And like, it's the same thing with Cowboy Bebop as well. Right? It's like. It's very jazzy.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:34] Speaker A: And it's the same thing, in my opinion.
The season, I want to say 5 of art chart kind of gives the same vibe, I feel.
[00:11:43] Speaker B: Where are you getting that from?
[00:11:44] Speaker A: It's the one where he was in Dreamland and he was.
[00:11:47] Speaker B: I didn't like the season. I didn't watch that season, to be honest.
[00:11:50] Speaker A: Oh, I watched it all. I love Archer, every single part of it.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: Apart from that when he went into the coma.
[00:11:55] Speaker A: But there were so. There's so many seasons.
[00:11:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:58] Speaker A: I loved every single one.
[00:11:59] Speaker B: One thing was in a coma. I was like, we're good.
[00:12:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I was one of those people that went with it. I loved every single second of it.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: It was so wishy washy.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: What do you mean, wishy washy?
[00:12:07] Speaker B: It was wishy washy.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: It's always been very wacky. Like. Like the tangent that it goes, it's going this way, and then it's like, ooh. And then it's like.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: I feel the dreamland just came. A season just was a bit extra for me. It was a bit.
[00:12:19] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't actually know if it's called Dreamland. I'm not quite sure, but it's the one where I think they're in LA and, like, in the past, and, like, Lana is a jazz singer and stuff. And I actually.
That was really nice. I think I might have been rewatching that arc when I did this, actually.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: I wouldn't be surprised.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: And also, they fight with guns and stuff. And that's pretty cool, I guess. The cast. What was I gonna say?
I think that's pretty much it, really. It does also kind of delve into deeper things the both of them do.
But all in all, they're both funny. They're both quite sassy, they're very jazzy. And the main characters, I feel like they speak to each other. They will definitely not be friends, though. They'll be like, friends that love to hate each other, I reckon. And. And I think that that's a great combo. I'll show Spike, because Spike is so serious. And I just.
He is actually, like. He announces to the whole fucking world that he's a Spike.
And, like, Spike is a bit more reserved, so they wouldn't get along.
[00:13:23] Speaker B: Spike does have a bounty on his head.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: This is true.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: Listen, if I had a bounty, I'm not telling you by name. I'm going to the bar, ordering my drink and saying thank you and then leaving.
[00:13:33] Speaker A: That was such a missed opportunity. I'm so, so upset with myself that I didn't think of that. Like Black Lagoon. Yeah, it's a good one. Okay, that's the end of mine.
[00:13:41] Speaker B: Okay, continuing on with the artist end turn.
[00:13:44] Speaker A: Oh, I'm not picking up my G. Wow. I'm continuing. Shocking. This is shocking behavior.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: Sorry, I'm comparing Archer to Spy Family. Thank you very much.
[00:13:53] Speaker A: Hello.
[00:13:54] Speaker B: Yes. Yes. Yes.
Well, the male leads in are very different characters. The Forger family and the Archer family are just very, you know, out there. So what I was comparing it to. We've got the family dynamic. I'm comparing it to part with the season where Lana got pregnant.
You remember that season? Yeah. So she has a child. And then Spy Family, Obviously, we've got Anna, we got your. And then we got the father. What the father's name as a child.
But yeah, while Spy Family, they're trying to keep their talents and their spy family hidden. Archer is very. As you said, it's very out there. He just wants to tell everyone he's a spy. And then Lana's like. They're like, calm down, calm down. And I feel like Lana is like, the bridge between the two things. So she's very much like Lana. And yor, specifically, they're very much like, very similar in her personalities, I think I feel in a base, like, the birthright protective people of the people that they cherish. And then they also, like, have, like, badass, like, backstories. Well, they're both, like, very good in, like, in physical combat, you know, a lot of those. She's a gun. She is also good at physical combat herself.
[00:15:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:08] Speaker B: But, yeah, the only difference is, like, I feel like in Spy X Family, it's centered around Anna.
Anya a bit more than.
I mean, we do see the other characters, but they're not. I feel like she is the bridge between both her father and mother.
[00:15:26] Speaker A: Right. Okay.
[00:15:26] Speaker B: If that makes sense. Okay. Because they are very. They have their own little jobs and neither one of them know what their jobs are. So they're just like, ah, right.
[00:15:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:15:34] Speaker B: So it's just like, he's here as a spy, she's here as an assassin, and then there's Anya here in the middle, who's like, oh, Mama and Papa. They're out here killing people. How nice.
And I feel like, like, Archer is, like. Is a bit like Anya. Like, he's very playful. He's very childlike. And he's just like, me, me, I'm the star.
Do you know what I mean?
[00:15:59] Speaker A: I do.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: Because Anya is very much like that. She's very playful. She is a child herself. But, yeah, she's very playful. She's very much like, she wants to be adored, but she also wants to protect people. So I think Archie does embody that to some degree.
You don't agree?
[00:16:16] Speaker A: I do, I do. I do. Like, when it comes down, down, down to it, Archer does, like, stand up for his people, but you gotta dig deep.
No, I think I agree. I hear you with. With what's her name? Lana. And your. Because I. At first when you said, like, they're quite similar, I was like, ooh, are they? But I think it's just like, the outwardness of it. Like, just the surface level, because Lana's quite loud and very out there. She doesn't take any.
What is that idiom? She takes no prisoners.
[00:16:51] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: Something bridges. Is that right?
[00:16:54] Speaker B: I don't know which one you're going with.
[00:16:55] Speaker A: She Takes no Prisoners, I think is the one I want to use. She's very out there. But while Yor is also quite reserved from the outwardness. But in her head, she's not. She's not.
[00:17:06] Speaker B: Yeah, but you have to remember that she's doing that because she.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: She thinks that that's what a woman.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: She's trying to. To give off.
[00:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So that was what I had to, like, think of, like. Oh, right. Yeah, they are. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was. I was like. At first I was like. And then I was like. Right. Of course. The brother. Her brother is a psycho.
He needs help. He needs. He needs. He needs help.
[00:17:29] Speaker B: And he works for the government as well.
[00:17:32] Speaker A: Wait, who would the brother be in Archer?
Who's that, Pam, you think?
Who would it be, though? It wouldn't be Barry. Would it be Barry? No, I don't think so, because Barry hates Archer. Hates Archer. It's okay with Lana. Hates Archer.
So. But he loves his sister. But he doesn't quite look like the husband.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: No.
[00:17:59] Speaker A: So maybe Barry. But then he's a villain.
But.
[00:18:05] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:18:05] Speaker A: Interesting.
Okay. Anyway, my next one is Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood and the grim adventures of Billy and Mandy.
Remember that?
[00:18:22] Speaker B: I do remember.
[00:18:23] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:18:24] Speaker B: I just love it.
[00:18:25] Speaker A: Yeah, so do I.
How I say. Dynamic duo. Dynamic duo. Dynamic trio. Dynamic trio. So obviously. Ow. And Edwards.
[00:18:38] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: Is his name Al? No, no.
[00:18:42] Speaker B: Alphonse Alpha.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: So. Oh, yes. And Billy Amandi, obviously. And then you add the gown. Liszy. And then obviously Zigloom. So then I'm Duo. And I'm Treya. Blah, blah, blah. They go on an adventure, which they kind of cause themselves.
[00:19:01] Speaker B: Fair enough.
[00:19:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah.
Let's see. There's a lot of, like, humanity and, like, sacrificing. And one of the siblings. Are they actually siblings? They're not, are they? They're friends.
[00:19:13] Speaker B: Who?
[00:19:13] Speaker A: Billy and Mandy.
[00:19:14] Speaker B: Bill are friends.
[00:19:15] Speaker A: Yeah. One of them is more serious and, like, the other one's, like, more playful and nobody likes it. And kind of annoying, like Al. But I love Al, though, so. Yeah.
And they're also very funny. They both really are very funny. And they. They kind of laugh at death, but. And, like, things that are quite macabre, but they do kind of throw.
They're both kind of based on, like, death.
[00:19:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:45] Speaker A: And, like, the Other life. Or the other life. The Other side.
Which one do I want here?
One of them. You choose.
Okay. And obviously, secondly, they both deal with the occult thingy, is an alchemist, and obviously there's a goddamn Grimm. Like, what else do you want? And also, when you think about it, the shadow guy is kind of like a Grim Ripper, in a sense. Those shadowy, handsy things. The shadow guy, the one who's standing in front of the door, which is kind of. You what? In Full Metal Meta Alchemist.
[00:20:14] Speaker B: A God.
[00:20:15] Speaker A: A Grimm.
[00:20:16] Speaker B: Yeah, but his name is God.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: That's not.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: The one in white.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: The one in one at the door?
[00:20:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: The one at the door is the one standing at the door.
[00:20:22] Speaker B: Yeah. That's a version of God.
[00:20:25] Speaker A: No. Is it? I don't think so.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:20:29] Speaker A: I think that's what they called him. Maybe. But he's not.
[00:20:33] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: Because at the end, they realized that it was you. Like them.
[00:20:39] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:20:40] Speaker A: Like, remember the thing with. When he took. Thing. His arm, Edward's arm. Like, the thing. The shadow thing had his arm.
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:20:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So I guess in an essence, it is kind of like.
I just want to blaspheme.
This is anime.
No, no. I'm, like, very conscious of these things. Very. Like, recently.
[00:21:03] Speaker B: You wanted to disclose it.
[00:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah. It's like, we're not obviously talking about your capital G O D. We're not. Yeah.
[00:21:09] Speaker B: I wasn't.
[00:21:09] Speaker A: Yeah. So I just thought, you know, disclaimer. We'll put that there. They're both quite dark with a twist.
That is the second one.
Ah. There is personal growth in what's it called? Full Meta Alchemist. And there's also, like, political conversations there with, like, Wrath being in the.
What is his general?
[00:21:35] Speaker B: He's a general.
[00:21:36] Speaker A: Right. And Billy and Mandy, they're kind of just on a wacky adventure, really. Same thing with the boys, with the brothers.
Theirs is to find themselves. They have, like, a specific plan, but Billy and Mandy don't really have that. But there's a lot of mischief. It's very funny. So is Fullmetal Alchemist. Is it wild that I'm comparing these two? I feel like the more that I talk about it, it's seeming a bit crazy.
Okay, so all in all, let me. Let me read exactly what I've put here.
[00:22:08] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: While they steer different genres, both series feature memorable characters and intriguing stories. Whether you're drawn to the depth of alchemy or the humor of the underworld, there's plenty of adventure to explore.
That was so fucking cheesy. I'm so sorry, guys. I'm actually. I'm ashamed of myself here, but carry on.
[00:22:30] Speaker B: Okay. I feel like I had more differences and parallels.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I think as I was talking, I was like, God damn it. God damn it.
I think I just like the idea that it's. They're both dark, they're both on an adventure, and, like, they're both just. They're not chilling, but they're chilling. Things get dark on both ends. Like, remember when.
What does Mandy do? Mandy was like, she did something to Billy, and Billy literally went to the underworld and, like, she had to go look for him and stuff. And now it was mainly just funny because it's a chance. Yeah. Mandy's just. Mandy's a legend, in my opinion. She's. She's very. She's very mean. Why did I like that girl?
In hindsight, she's very mean.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: No, I always knew she was mean.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I always knew she was mean, but, like, now that I'm deep in all the things that she did to. But then again, pity is very annoying.
[00:23:20] Speaker B: No, I feel like. Because when you compare it to, like, things like, we had, like, Foster's Home, imaginary kids. We had Ed and Eddie. Like, we didn't have, like, a female lead, a good female lead that, like.
Do you know what I mean? On the Cartoon Network shows. I mean, we had Johnny Test. Did you watch any Test? We saw the Sisters, but the Sisters were more like background characters. We weren't main characters.
[00:23:43] Speaker A: We weren't main characters yet. No. I'm actually trying to think if I do know of any female leads. Character. Yeah. Like, main characters. Apart from. I don't know if she's Cartoon Network. Ginny. Pali. Ginny Juniper.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: She might be Disney.
[00:23:58] Speaker A: Is she Disney?
[00:23:58] Speaker B: I don't know. I'm trying to put a place in my memory of.
[00:24:02] Speaker A: Let me find Ms. Juniper Lee.
Juniper Me.
Yeah.
[00:24:20] Speaker B: It looks like a Disney show.
Oh, no, it's Cartoon Network.
[00:24:26] Speaker A: Yeah, There you go. She was pretty cool. I liked her a lot.
Who else did I like?
I really. I can't think of one, but I'm pretty sure there's quite a few, because I think during this, like, Juniper Lee era, there were other female main characters, I want to say.
[00:24:47] Speaker B: But I feel a while after Billy and Mandy, maybe like a year or two later.
It says it's set starting 2005. I'll check. Billy.
[00:25:04] Speaker A: Billy and Mandy. And Mandy. Oh, Robot Boy.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: I love Roboy.
[00:25:08] Speaker A: Love Robot Boy.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: Yeah.
Grim Adventures of Billy and mandy start in 2001. So I think that's why, you see, I think during the Lee's time, there would have been more female leads, but not during Billy and Mandy's time.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: Right, right, right, right.
I think there might be a bit of a thing here, because growing up, it's likely that I watched reruns of Billy and Mandy.
[00:25:39] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:25:42] Speaker A: And so I kind of most likely watched them around the same time.
[00:25:48] Speaker B: That's fair.
[00:25:50] Speaker A: We didn't have cable in 2001. That's for sure. I know that for sure.
[00:25:55] Speaker B: Do you have that one codename, Kids.
[00:25:56] Speaker A: Next Door, A la la. Yes.
[00:25:58] Speaker B: We also had Johnny Bravo.
[00:26:00] Speaker A: Yes. Loved Kid Next Door.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: And the Exclamation Laboratory.
[00:26:04] Speaker A: Didi's very.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: Didi was annoying.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: Something.
[00:26:07] Speaker B: We also had the original Powerpuff Girls. I have to say original, because. So those are leads, and that's true, but. Okay, then we only have two leads.
[00:26:16] Speaker A: Left that we can think of. I've gone through a whole list and, you know. Is that it?
Wow.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: First of all.
[00:26:23] Speaker A: So can I see?
[00:26:24] Speaker B: Go.
[00:26:24] Speaker A: Let's go.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: Go.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: Oh, damn.
[00:26:26] Speaker B: So out of the list. I've said right now, we've literally just named two things, which we had be more leads.
[00:26:31] Speaker A: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I remember Chowder. Chowder as a boy, fussed at him for imagining friends. I remember that so much. He's on my face to smile.
I don't remember that. American Dragon.
[00:26:42] Speaker B: American Dragon was on Disney X, which then turned into Disney. Disney X. Jetix. It was on Jetix when Jetix got bought out by Disney. Oh, I love Jetix. Did you watch?
[00:26:52] Speaker A: No, I wasn't in the uk, but, yeah, get it. Oh, Generation Generator. Rex. That was a good one. Camp Laszlo. I did not get it.
[00:27:02] Speaker B: Let me see the picture. Never watched it.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: I didn't get it. I. I tried. I did. I was like, what is this for kids, not babies.
What are you trying to get at? Stop this.
Let me see. I'm just going through, like, this list to see if there's anything that I recognize, ever say, Scooby Doo. Kim Possible. Is she Kim Possible?
[00:27:25] Speaker B: Disney.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: Ah. Okay.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: See, that's why on Cartoon Network there weren't that many female leads. So even though I knew Mandy was a mean girl, she was my girl. Does that make sense?
[00:27:41] Speaker A: It's not looking.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: You have two female lead shows. It's okay. They've accepted. We've grown.
[00:27:48] Speaker A: That's bad.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: We've grown.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: No, but that's really bad, bro.
Damn.
Got in that one. What one?
[00:28:01] Speaker B: It's gone now. I don't know who you're trying to.
[00:28:03] Speaker A: I know, but still, damn. I had. I never really noticed, you know, but maybe it's because, like, most of them had, like, women in the background.
[00:28:11] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: That's in the background.
[00:28:13] Speaker B: But it wasn't like.
[00:28:14] Speaker A: Like, as a child, the sense of, like, main character doesn't.
Well, it didn't sink in for me.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: No, it didn't. But I'm just saying, like, now that you're talking about it.
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Would you say Gwen was. I mean, she's not a main character, but she was like, one of the main cast.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah. There you go.
[00:28:32] Speaker B: That was not during the time of Billy and Mandy, I don't know.
[00:28:35] Speaker A: I don't know what time that we're comparing here because I kind of watch them all around the same time.
[00:28:40] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:28:41] Speaker A: But no Bentine, the girl in Mega's xlr, although she was not human, but.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: Still didn't watch that one.
[00:28:47] Speaker A: Still female.
[00:28:48] Speaker B: I didn't watch that one. So I cannot say.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: Yeah, that's, that's fair. Because it's a. I realized when I was doing this research that it's a very old cartoon.
Of course it is. Like I said, it's likely that I watch reruns of Cartoon Network.
Yeah.
Because this was. This is like Cartoon Network Nigeria in like 2006. 7, 8, 9.
I wasn't allowed to watch Cartoon Network.
Was I really allowed to watch anything other than Tom and Jerry?
[00:29:28] Speaker B: Really?
[00:29:30] Speaker A: Let's not. Yeah, let's. Let's.
[00:29:31] Speaker B: Tom and Jerry. What a legacy they are.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: Anyway, that's the end of my TED Talk so far.
[00:29:39] Speaker B: Okay, so my next one would be Tilted Drama island and Katagurai.
[00:29:45] Speaker A: I like this one. I was very curious about this one.
[00:29:47] Speaker B: What do you mean?
[00:29:48] Speaker A: I was just curious about this.
[00:29:49] Speaker B: Okay, so in the first season of Tilted Drama island, we meet these 16 year old children, as grown as they might think they are. They are still children. So they go on this island, they do these little men at adventures. They get to vote each other off, they get put into teams and it's literally survival of the fittest using games and challenges. Katagurae, though it's not on an island, it's a school setting. And survival of the fittest is done. You don't vote people out, but you can make them your pet by making them go into debt towards you. Okay. Which is worse than being voted off, I'd say.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: I'll say.
[00:30:28] Speaker B: But it's still the same principle. The player games, you can be single player, team player, the team that wins. In Kathle, right, You win money, similar principles.
[00:30:36] Speaker A: And status.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: And status.
Status. And in Total Drama island, similar principle. You get money and you get slayers if you win. And if you get to the final round. And it's about being a team player, but also scheming.
If you can cheat and you cheat well, well done to you. And if you don't get caught for cheating, bonus points. But the whole premises of it is, as I said, it's about the games, it's about community and breaking bonds. It's about making bonds, building trust, winning, gambling with your. Sometimes you pick your life in some cases, and other cases other people's lives.
[00:31:15] Speaker A: I don't know.
Now, Kagakuri is wild, but you can.
[00:31:21] Speaker B: See the parallels between these two things.
[00:31:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. They're very cutthroat. One does it in a funny, whimsy way and the other one does it in a kind of fucked up way.
[00:31:32] Speaker B: She just loves to gamble. She's a girl that loves to play.
[00:31:35] Speaker A: She's just a girl.
[00:31:36] Speaker B: Exactly.
[00:31:36] Speaker A: She's just a girl.
[00:31:38] Speaker B: She was bored. Okay. One day she said, it's okay.
[00:31:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I wouldn't go to that school. I was gonna gamble a man's lives, you know?
[00:31:45] Speaker B: Yeah. And similar to the teenage people, she's.
[00:31:48] Speaker A: Like, I have nothing.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: They were like, oh, it's summer break. I need a little bit of money. Let me go on this TV show. I might die. I might win money at the end of it. Oh, it's okay.
[00:31:59] Speaker A: Imagine if, like. Nah, it wouldn't have been fun if, like, Kagakura was kind of like total drama.
And where. Where they, like.
Where it's like a reality TV show and then they do all these things and then you could have, like, outside influence and like, people voting. That would be quite. That would be wild.
[00:32:20] Speaker B: You're describing Hunger Games right there, mate.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not Hunger Games because.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: Okay, this sound like they didn't choose to go into it, but.
[00:32:29] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:32:30] Speaker B: It's a Hunger Games, but friendly with options.
[00:32:35] Speaker A: It's like how the capital, the people of the capital think the Hunger Games is.
[00:32:38] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: Okay.
Any more for me?
[00:32:42] Speaker B: No, that's all my comparisons.
[00:32:43] Speaker A: Thank you. Thanks. Next up on Z Agenda. Wait, that's all for you now We've.
[00:32:49] Speaker B: Got one more left.
[00:32:49] Speaker A: Okay, I was going to say. Next on the agenda is Samurai Showdown. We have Rurouni, Kenshi and Samurai Jack. Okay, it's the.
I had it and then I lost it.
It's a samurai showdown.
That's funny.
You know, I've got problems. Okay, so Samurai Jack, Samurai X. Well, Rurouni, Kenshi, Samurai Jack and Kenshin, they are the protagonist. They're like the main characters, right. They're searching for something.
They have like. They're both wondering the wanderers. Until he technically settles. That's Kenshin, but he's the Roman samurai and so is Jack. Jack was cursed by some random guy. And this one, he's like a devil batosai guy who. Well, I guess he's looking for purpose. He's also looking for a bad guy. Specific bad guy.
So. Right. So the both of them, they are wanderers.
Jack is traveling free time. Kenshi is traveling through, like, that particular era. I forget which era? Edo era that he's currently in. And he's looking for redemption, right. Because of what he's done. And he says he's never gonna kill again. However, Jack, he's traveling through time because some evil lord guy, aku, decides he's going to suffer and he just. I haven't seen the new one actually. That's. I'm going on a slight tangent. The new Samurai Jack, like a grown up version. I think Adult Swim did one. I need to watch that.
But yeah. So parallels travelers and whatnot. Next thing, inner conflicts, right. So Kenshi, he's like battling with his past, right. And he's known as like this battlesai. Like he has this huge reputation and he's like struggling with it because that's not who he is anymore. And he wants to protect people. He doesn't want to lose himself. He doesn't want to be the battle sai anymore. And like Jack, he also has like inner battles. Like he's lonely, he has to travel through time and he's about to make progress. He's like. Aku's like, no, bitch.
No.
And so he travels again and like he's having to kind of deal with constant helplessness really. And it's kind of. It's kind of sad. I don't know why I found that fun to watch as a child, but there you go. They're both quite sad because. What's it. What's his name? Kenshi. He's. He's done a lot of horrible things and he's. Like I said, he's trying to redeem himself. And this one, he's on like a. Not a humanitarian mission, but he's on a mission to save. Save himself so he can go back to his family and live his great life. And Keji quite literally just wants to protect the people he now loves and live a great life.
[00:35:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:58] Speaker A: But his past keeps chasing him.
Next. This style, I think they're not very like. They're not similar at all when it comes to style. Actually. Samajak is very.
There's not a lot of like world building. It's all kind of very, very, very 2D and like very traditional Japanese art.
[00:36:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:31] Speaker A: Type look to. To Samo Jack. But with kenshin it's very 90s. It's very colorful. It's very like action. Very gripping. However, they both have action.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:36:43] Speaker A: Like finishing moves and like striking. And they're like. It's very. I find that. I found that they were very quite similar when it comes to like the little putting like Finishing moves. And obviously they are both Japanese. But I do think that Samurai Jack was done by the west and Rooney Kenshi was done in Japan.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:36:59] Speaker A: I hope that that is the case.
That's all I'm gonna say.
[00:37:04] Speaker B: Let me verify for you. I'll do a little fact check for you.
[00:37:08] Speaker A: Uhoh.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: Samurai Jack.
Continue going whilst I'm doing.
[00:37:21] Speaker A: Right. Okay. So like I said before, in terms of like similarities and stuff, they both kind of look at one specific thing that I think is very important. They look at honor. Ho we put you in it, don't we?
[00:37:32] Speaker B: What?
[00:37:33] Speaker A: In honor.
[00:37:34] Speaker B: Yeah, we do.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: Okay. H o N o U r. Yeah, yeah, that one. It's a huge theme. It's very important because Jack is all like, oh, family.
Oh, I gotta go back. Better world. I need to get rid of evil. Which is aku. And he's traveling and traveling and traveling. And it's the same thing with Kenshin where he's like, ooh, I forget the name of that bad guy. But he's like, I gotta get rid of this guy. And then he does the Chocolato Jutsu at the end and it's all good. And he fights. There's this huge thing. It's oh, oh, oh. At the end he's like dying. It's like, ah, he's got to fight and like got to fight for his people. I was going to burst into a song there. Got to fight, fight, fight fight fight for this love. And it's becoming as a fighting for.
Sorry. Jesus Christ. Why? What is my mind? What's this? Okay, it's the energy drink. Lack of sleep.
[00:38:31] Speaker B: It's actually your body's fight.
[00:38:36] Speaker A: So Slave is chasing me, but I'm faster.
[00:38:39] Speaker B: I love that saying. You know so much.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: Slave is chasing you, but I'm okay. And they also have formidable like villains. Oh, actually, I guess it doesn't have one. But just like a slight tidbit. I really like Sanosuke in Rurouna Kenshi. I realized that I have a type and that is him.
[00:39:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: Do you want to see what it looks like?
[00:39:02] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: I do go into Googles.
[00:39:05] Speaker B: Oh my. Google's saying Samurai Jack is an American animated TV series.
[00:39:09] Speaker A: A la la. Thank you.
Now Sanosuke sa no su ke.
[00:39:23] Speaker B: This one.
[00:39:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:39:30] Speaker B: So what other anime character have you liked that's similar, embodies him?
[00:39:34] Speaker A: None.
[00:39:34] Speaker B: Well, how's that your type then?
[00:39:36] Speaker A: He's very special.
Clearly he's a swordsman.
[00:39:41] Speaker B: That's.
[00:39:41] Speaker A: I know he's a bit over the top.
[00:39:44] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:39:45] Speaker A: He has funky colored hair.
[00:39:47] Speaker B: It's just brown.
[00:39:49] Speaker A: Oh, he has a band over his head. Sorry. He wears a kimono sometimes. He does this little thing where he puts his hand here through his kimono. Is there another anime character that does this?
[00:40:02] Speaker B: No, but you know what? He reminds me of Zoro.
[00:40:04] Speaker A: You asshole.
Sorry.
He's right there. He's right there.
[00:40:12] Speaker B: But Zoro's not looking.
[00:40:14] Speaker A: He doesn't look anything like him.
[00:40:15] Speaker B: He reminds me of.
[00:40:16] Speaker A: Who does he remind you of?
[00:40:18] Speaker B: Sample Sakura.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: What? It does like his energy.
Nothing could be further from the truth. This guy. He is. No, no, no, no. This guy. What do you mean? Like in terms of design?
[00:40:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:40:34] Speaker A: Okay, okay, okay, okay. I'll give you that one. In terms of design. Yeah, but if you know this character, they are nothing alike.
[00:40:42] Speaker B: I don't know his personality.
[00:40:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, personality wise, they couldn't be.
But yeah, I love this movie.
[00:40:51] Speaker B: I remember about him. Apart from him being a dick's sister, adopted sister, Rukia.
[00:40:55] Speaker A: Wow. It was out of love.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:40:59] Speaker A: But like him in the Thousand Year War, he had a good redemption arc. And like he actually get to see how much he loves her. Like after, like, what's his name?
Ichigo literally smacks him with a sword.
And then he's like, all right, yeah, I've been doing things wrong.
[00:41:27] Speaker B: I want to get his.
[00:41:36] Speaker A: Yeah, he's really, really, really nice. He also has a scar as well, like Zoro that he got from a sword fight from people that they admire.
Right. Why am I seeing Mega xlr? That's not where I'm at. I believe that is the end of my story.
[00:41:54] Speaker B: Okay, my last one is WINX Club versus Yimu Power. Because I feel like, okay, I don't know that one. It's a magical goal on me. I don't think you would have known because you don't really like Magical Girl animes.
[00:42:09] Speaker A: I ain't saying nothing. I ain't saying nothing.
See, So I realized that you magical girls anime people are actually psychopaths.
[00:42:19] Speaker B: What do you mean?
[00:42:20] Speaker A: I don't want to offend you lot. I'm so sorry. Yes, ma'am. I don't want to offend.
[00:42:23] Speaker B: Where did you get this information from? I think it's inaccurate.
[00:42:25] Speaker A: TikTok.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: It's inaccurate.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: No, I don't want to fuck with you lot. It's inaccurate. See, I saw a video about how girls that don't like magical animes are pick me's and I said, nah. If. If we're not. I'm not gonna do that. I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry.
I'm staying away.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: I'm gonna start essentially, like animations.
[00:42:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, I don't know how TikTok thought maybe it was after the conversation that we had.
[00:42:51] Speaker B: What do you mean?
[00:42:51] Speaker A: About magical girls. Right. And TikTok. But I didn't literally go on your.
[00:42:54] Speaker B: Phone and search up like.
[00:42:55] Speaker A: I'm not blaming this on you though. I'm blaming this on TikTok because I think the next day or so I saw a video of a girl that's like, oh, girls who only watch shonen are basically big mes. I said, so you can't be talking about me because how would you not.
[00:43:15] Speaker B: Want to watch a series about female empowerment, huh? Tell me, must you be male centered?
[00:43:21] Speaker A: I started from Shannon and I stick with Shannon.
[00:43:25] Speaker B: Must you be Mel sent?
[00:43:26] Speaker A: And sometimes I watch smart and that's about it.
[00:43:30] Speaker B: Okay, good for you.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: I believe my smuts is very magical girl. Beautiful things happen. Very magical things happen, might I add, actually. So I don't know what you're talking about.
[00:43:42] Speaker B: Happy for you. As I said, happy for you.
Okay, so Wins Club and Mew Mew Power are both magical girl based, I feel. So when it's club you follow 5 girls and in new Mew power you also follow 5 girls in Winx Club. The fairies in New Mew Power, they're not fairies. They're sort of. I don't know how to describe them. They have wands. So take that as you wish.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: Do they both have wands then?
[00:44:09] Speaker B: No, they both have wands. Wands, yeah.
[00:44:14] Speaker A: Every time I think about wands now, I don't think Harry Potter. No, no, no.
[00:44:17] Speaker B: What do you think?
[00:44:19] Speaker A: I think about Moshi.
Yeah. Honestly, Because I just.
[00:44:27] Speaker B: Yeah, it's the one when he was like making fire, he had to do that.
And then it's also like the flying lasso he threw.
He's fantastic. Honestly.
[00:44:54] Speaker A: Oh my gosh, I'm in tears.
[00:44:57] Speaker B: So both these group of girls are both trying to save the world. So one's based in the school and the other one's based in a cafe. Mainly because in union power there's high school kids and they work in a cafe after school to save money.
So that's why it's mainly based around the cafe. And you see them in a day to day life. How to build friendships, how to make bonds.
Struggles they go through as teenage girls. I say struggles in inverted commas because it's a. The most struggle they have is like. I don't think they do struggle, to be honest. To be honest, like, no, I don't. No.
[00:45:29] Speaker A: It's like one episode and the struggle is over.
[00:45:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Is that a struggle?
[00:45:32] Speaker A: It's like so and so has feelings for so and so. And then. And then done.
[00:45:36] Speaker B: Yeah. I think in like A New Power, the guy she likes is also like.
Is also magical and he has powers. But she doesn't know this until like the very last few episodes. And then in Wayx Club, obviously, you know, the Wings Club, they have like the parallels of them. Like the boys, the swordsman. What do they call them again? Anyway, they got the. The parallel school to win this club where the boys train. They always. They pair off so that they always.
[00:46:02] Speaker A: Find their own partners.
[00:46:04] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: So do they all each have in Mimi power?
[00:46:09] Speaker B: No, it's just one girl.
[00:46:10] Speaker A: Why does she get to the special?
[00:46:11] Speaker B: Because she's the main character.
I don't even know why you're all alive. Because you didn't watch it.
[00:46:19] Speaker A: I get to highbrow it regardless. Why don't they all get boyfriends?
[00:46:23] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:46:24] Speaker A: What's this? I thought it was about five girls.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: Yeah, there was five girls, but it.
[00:46:28] Speaker A: Was about one girl.
No, I'm fucking with you.
[00:46:33] Speaker B: That's not what I said.
[00:46:35] Speaker A: You said the main character gets a boyfriend and the rest don't.
[00:46:38] Speaker B: Okay, Lena.
[00:46:40] Speaker A: So why does the lead again to be happy? Well, not to say that boyfriend means happiness, but you get my point, though. Why does she get boyfriends or the other ones?
[00:46:48] Speaker B: She doesn't have a boyfriend.
[00:46:49] Speaker A: Why does she have a male counterpart?
[00:46:51] Speaker B: A male interest?
[00:46:52] Speaker A: The other ones don't?
[00:46:53] Speaker B: Because the other ones are too busy. One's a superstar in her main life. The other one is like an heiress. She's too busy with having boyfriends.
[00:47:00] Speaker A: Actually, I lie. I have watched. Well, is she a magical girl? Not magical girl, but I think it's a shojo.
[00:47:06] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:47:07] Speaker A: Skip Skip.
[00:47:08] Speaker B: B is a shojo? Yes.
[00:47:19] Speaker A: I'm very proud of myself.
[00:47:21] Speaker B: Might I ask, actually, is there more than you watched?
[00:47:26] Speaker A: I'm gonna have to dig deep. I watched Shirayuki with the red hair.
[00:47:30] Speaker B: Shirokohime?
[00:47:32] Speaker A: Yes.
That's got to be shoujo. Yes.
Is K Project Shoujo?
[00:47:39] Speaker B: No.
[00:47:43] Speaker A: I do watch very lovey dovey stuff sometimes though. Like, I watched the. The villainess one. Okay, that's low. That's lovey dovey.
And I also want to watch Apothecary Diaries.
[00:47:54] Speaker B: It's a good one.
[00:47:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's good. So I want to watch that. Actually, I'm diversifying my interests lately. In the past year or two, I'll say I'm growing up at my ripe age. I'm almost 30.
[00:48:07] Speaker B: What are we diverting into?
[00:48:10] Speaker A: God damn you. It's a guy, obviously, in the past, like, five years, my entire life has been. Is a guy.
[00:48:17] Speaker B: That's very true.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: Majority. Yeah. No, I obviously still want, like, the main ones, but a lot of my other interest is very steeped in isekai.
[00:48:26] Speaker B: It's just a different version of isekai.
[00:48:28] Speaker A: It's the same story over and over again. And there's something about the reputation that I just love.
I mean, technically, all anime is the same anyway.
[00:48:37] Speaker B: No, no, no.
[00:48:38] Speaker A: There's a beginning, there's. There's an omission at the end. They either win or they lose.
[00:48:42] Speaker B: That's just how stories run.
[00:48:45] Speaker A: Sometimes there's a question mark.
[00:48:47] Speaker B: Which question mark?
[00:48:48] Speaker A: Like Inception?
Yeah. No, because with Inception, it kind of leaves you with a huge question mark of is he. Is he not?
[00:48:59] Speaker B: I didn't watch it. So.
[00:49:01] Speaker A: Okay, so like, at the end, there's a thing where they use, like, a spinny top thing to decide if they're in the real world or in their heads. And the thing just keeps spinning and spinning and spinning and spinning and spinning, and then it just rolls and it just goes to fade. Okay, so I choose to believe in happiness in the real world. Yes. And he's happy, but deep down, I definitely know him. That man, he's dead.
Okay, but, you know, surface level to just make me happy. He's in the real world with his wife and kids, very happy.
The enjoyment of each other's life.
[00:49:36] Speaker B: That's my end.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: Oh, that's it. That is it. Okay, so you get to choose. Do you have, like, honorable I'm not even Yoruba. My H factor is wild.
Do you have honorable mentions?
[00:49:49] Speaker B: Well, there's one, but I didn't know what I was thinking of when I wrote it, so I'm just gonna leave it be.
[00:49:52] Speaker A: Yeah. What was it?
[00:49:53] Speaker B: Whiskey Doo and Erase.
[00:49:57] Speaker A: I don't know. So you have shared it with me then? Because I remember. I was like, really?
[00:50:01] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:02] Speaker A: You did share it with me, though. I don't remember. How did I say it makes sense at the time.
[00:50:05] Speaker B: You know, I showed you. When I wrote it down.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Look, I just said I remember. I was just like, oh, really? And then you were like, oh, okay, maybe not. But let's hear it. Let's hear it. Still.
[00:50:13] Speaker B: You haven't done yours.
[00:50:14] Speaker A: Oh, right, yeah, my final one. Oh, sorry, sorry. I'm very sorry. Okay, so you get to choose because I have, I think a couple as well. Because obviously I think we had the same number. But if you're gonna skip that, then we'll pick the twin one. I have Powerpuff Girls V Little Witch Academia.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:50:29] Speaker A: And I have Mega XLR and Guren Lagann.
[00:50:34] Speaker B: Gurren Lagann.
[00:50:37] Speaker A: Let's do it.
Oh, I also have what's her name at least you just mentioned her name just now.
Oh, Foster. Time for Imaginary Friends versus Maggie.
I have Blue Exorcist versus ginapilli.
[00:50:51] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:50:53] Speaker A: And I think that's it.
[00:51:02] Speaker B: I didn't finish Grim Logan.
I didn't.
[00:51:07] Speaker A: I want to say I didn't either.
I think I just put this here because they both reminded me of like the same thing.
They're very. They're both Mecca. And I think that's like one of the only Mecca show that I've watched. And Megas is also like the only Mega cartoon that I've watched. So I was like, well, I guess. What's the name? Lalit La Leach Lot. It's kind of Mecca.
[00:51:27] Speaker B: It isn't Mecca. It's the best Mecca.
[00:51:33] Speaker A: What's the name of that thing? Gundam. Tik Tok is opening my eyes to the world of Gundam.
[00:51:38] Speaker B: Gracious likes it.
[00:51:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I might too. I think because the Mecha Mecha of it is very distracting in my head. I'm like, there can't be a deep storyline here.
However, Tick Tock has changed my mind recently.
Apparently there's this guy who looks like.
Who like, I think some bad guy kills his parents and like his entire family. So he escapes with his sister to like some random. Some other place. Anyway, he goes to this place, he finds a guy who looks exactly like him. Only difference is they don't have the same color eye and I think hair color.
[00:52:10] Speaker B: Okay, right.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: So what he does is obviously the people that killed his parents are still chasing him and his sister. So he takes this guy's identity, the other guy, and then he sends the other guy on a mission into space.
And then I think he reports that it's him on that ship. And then the bad people blow that guy up.
And then that guy, his parents, they.
[00:52:32] Speaker B: Come to ID the body?
[00:52:34] Speaker A: No, his parents come looking for him because they haven't heard from him in a while. And then he sends them on a wild goose chase about this boy. And then he did the exact same thing. He blew him up.
[00:52:43] Speaker B: Why?
[00:52:44] Speaker A: I don't know. That's just. That's what that specific TikTok If I. If I can find that TikTok video again, I'll tag it. I said, ooh la la.
Don't tempt me. Don't make me watch this thing.
But yeah, I thought that storyline was interesting. Maybe I should watch it. Maybe I should give it a chance. I'm not sure. I'm still thinking about it. So anyway, what say you?
Since we're not really rocking Mecca, we could do Juniper Lee versus Blue Exorcist or Foster's Home versus Maggie.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: Foster's home and Maggie.
[00:53:17] Speaker A: Okie dokie. Okie dokie. Okie dokie, Okie dokie. First is her versus Maggie. So Maggie, Maggie, Maggie. This is actually, well, tangent.
Friendship. The power of friendship and bonds.
[00:53:36] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:53:37] Speaker A: With the both of them. It's very much there, right? So like, they form. With Maggie, they're kind of forming like a group of people to go defeat. And like, along the way, they become family, they become friends. And with Foster, time for imaginary friend, obviously. What is that boy's name? Ben?
[00:53:55] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:53:56] Speaker A: Jack. He has a very basic name. Jack.
[00:54:00] Speaker B: It's been a while.
[00:54:01] Speaker A: It's been a very long time. I should have researched this main character. Yeah, the boy and Blue. I always remember Blue because he was my favorite.
[00:54:10] Speaker B: Really.
[00:54:11] Speaker A: He was a narcissistic little piece of shit. I use narcissists in a very jokey way. Please. Maybe I probably shouldn't. But it was a very. It was. He was kind of an asshole. Blue sometimes. But he is the imaginary friend. And, like, it's kind of about not really letting go, isn't it? Like, never growing up and, like, staying with your people and like building connections with all these deserted imaginary friends and they're all like a family and like, because Blue kind of still has his own kid, I guess, and the others have kind of lost their kids. And it's just kind of sad. And it's just always.
It was very touching. And obviously it's the same thing with Maggie. Like, he wakes up and like, he kind of has nobody. And then he goes like, on this adventure and then he makes his friends. Sinbad is cool. Everybody's cool. Everyone's friends, everybody's family.
They both kind of are adventure driven as well, right? So Blue, Blue and hey, Blue are the boy. Anyway, they kind of. They delve into, like I said, like, quite mature themes, right? Of like loneliness, friendship, you know, making sure the people that you like are protected, maybe, or like, they're cool. And it's kind of the same thing with. Is it Maggie or Maggie My God.
[00:55:35] Speaker B: Anyway, I've always said Maggie.
[00:55:36] Speaker A: So have I. I haven't heard any different, but I might be wrong.
Yes. Anyway, they're both kind of funny. They're very sassy. They have like. There's no powers like in. Like in Maggie, but there is imagination. And we all know how powerful imagination is. We all know. In my opinion. Anyway, it's very fun. It's very whimsical. They both have a lot of you got to conquer the friendship shit.
I'm not actually very sure that they have similarities. There are others that I could have picked, but I just thought technically, Maggie is kind of.
What's the word I'm looking for?
You know how Sinbad gathers all these, like.
What's this gene? Not. Are they genies? Are they genies?
Yeah, he gathers all these, like, wonderful powers and stuff and like that kind. I guess maybe it's not the Maggie, but because I know Maggie through. I know Sinbad through Maggie. I probably mean Sinbad because Sinbad's story is actually quite nice. So I probably mean Sinbad because Sinbad gets all these like, powers and like, he makes his own family and what that is. And I feel like there's parallels there with the boy from Foster. Time for imaginary friends.
Anywho's. Any how did any weighs. Any. How did I wears? I have a few honorable mensiones things that I thought about that I could have done, but I don't know. I feel like some of these actually are looking quite interesting Now. I have Powerpuff Girls and Sailor Moon. But the issue is that all I know about Sailor Moon is that they're magical girls. And so I was like, ooh, maybe not. But I feel like there could have been similarities if I had watched it because they both seem very girl powery. Like they have like little montages where they're actually doing their power things.
You know what I mean?
[00:57:30] Speaker B: Yes. They're power ups transformation.
[00:57:32] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah.
And that was fun watching that with the Powerpuff Girls. I thought that was fun. The next one would be Avatar the Last Airbender and Full Meta Alchemist.
[00:57:45] Speaker B: That's a stretch.
[00:57:46] Speaker A: Exactly. Well, it is, isn't it? I guess. That's a good one. I didn't make it.
I have Teen Titans and my hero academia.
I think that could have been good.
[00:57:58] Speaker B: Like, I went to the last Airbender to.
[00:58:03] Speaker A: There was also the issue of. I think Avatar the Airbender is actually an anime, but I watched it on a Canadian, so I was like, I don't know.
And there is a Japanese version of it as well.
[00:58:15] Speaker B: Oh. I was in the West.
[00:58:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Really?
When I watched it, I'm pretty sure the first one I watched was in Japanese. I didn't watch Airbender on tv.
[00:58:26] Speaker B: I've always watched it in English. On tv.
[00:58:29] Speaker A: Yeah. On Nickelodeon.
[00:58:30] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:58:31] Speaker A: That happened after.
Yeah. How did I come across.
How did I come across it online? I think I must have looked. I must have been looking for something else. And then I rip. Kiss Anime.
[00:58:51] Speaker B: We said every episode we mourn the last.
[00:58:55] Speaker A: I honestly do. I had a whole list on there of, like, cartoons.
[00:58:58] Speaker B: My mangas were sacrificing.
[00:59:00] Speaker A: You know, that Kiss Anime had, like, Kiss Anime, then Kiss Cartoon and Kiss Manga.
[00:59:05] Speaker B: Those were the days.
[00:59:07] Speaker A: A real shame.
[00:59:09] Speaker B: We need your back.
[00:59:10] Speaker A: I tasted freedom without a paywall.
We were actually talking about this the other day that. Is there, like, another anime platform that we can watch all the animes on that isn't Crunchyroll? That isn't. Not on Crunchyroll. Because I feel like my anime is very limited.
[00:59:27] Speaker B: I feel.
[00:59:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, my. My anime interest doesn't go crunchy way a lot because Gangster's not on there.
And those are the type. Even Black Lagoon's not on there. So it's like.
[00:59:43] Speaker B: Now. It wasn't.
[00:59:44] Speaker A: It was.
[00:59:45] Speaker B: Have they lost the right to it?
[00:59:46] Speaker A: I. I don't know. Maybe it's expired. But it comes and goes sometimes.
[00:59:51] Speaker B: But yeah. And we need a platform that is safe. I must clarify on that part.
[00:59:57] Speaker A: That you can also pay. I don't mind.
[00:59:59] Speaker B: We don't. We just want everything.
[01:00:01] Speaker A: Everything. Yeah.
[01:00:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:00:04] Speaker A: Release me from the shackles of Isekai. Please.
[01:00:07] Speaker B: Do you want to be released?
[01:00:08] Speaker A: I. I do. I love it as a guy. I do. I really do. But please, I want to go back to, like, baccano in 91 days. Like, you know, I'm sure they're out there still. You know what I mean?
[01:00:19] Speaker B: Somewhere.
[01:00:20] Speaker A: They're just not unconscious, bro. Anyway, moving on. I had tin titles. My Hero Academia. Okay. This is a very stupid one. Korra Shield.
The Rising of the Shield Hero.
[01:00:40] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:00:40] Speaker A: Because they were both kind of alienated. And I was like, oh, maybe, but didn't make it. Adventure Time One Piece.
[01:00:49] Speaker B: Adventure Time.
[01:00:52] Speaker A: Is that stretch.
[01:00:53] Speaker B: Let me check my memories to make sure I'm thinking of the right thing.
[01:00:57] Speaker A: A hunter. Hunter. Chop. Suck a Chucks.
[01:00:59] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:01:00] Speaker A: Rick and Morty Steins Gate.
Danny Phantom. Blue Exorcist.
[01:01:06] Speaker B: Adventure Time. And what you say. What do you compare Adventure Time to?
[01:01:09] Speaker A: Adventure Time. One Piece.
[01:01:12] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:12] Speaker A: No.
[01:01:15] Speaker B: Have you watched Adventure Time?
[01:01:16] Speaker A: It Sounds like they go on an adventure.
[01:01:20] Speaker B: I have watched Adventure Time.
[01:01:22] Speaker A: I haven't. I'm gonna say that for sure. It just sounds like it's fun. A lot of people talk about it like it's great. So I'm like, you know, something goated. They go on an adventure. Anime. Those goated. They're in a gut. They're in an adventure, and they meet a lot of people, and a lot of people join them along the way. They're the ones with the princess something something.
[01:01:38] Speaker B: Right. Princess Bubblegum.
[01:01:39] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm like, Marshally the Bloodfire Queen. There you go. There's a lot. There's a whole bunch of them.
It's like Steven Universe. Am I going the right way here?
[01:01:48] Speaker B: Steven Universe is so.
[01:01:51] Speaker A: That was like, after my time. I lost interest in Nickelodeon around that time. And Cartoon Network a bunch of time.
[01:01:58] Speaker B: At Steven Universe were good series, and that's what they were.
[01:02:01] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I didn't watch it. A friend of mine tried to get me to it. I was like, yeah.
No, it's the same thing with the blue kids. The one where. I think they're cats. Are they cats? They look like cats, but I don't think they're cats. Maybe they're dogs.
Is it Gumball?
[01:02:17] Speaker B: Gumball is funny.
[01:02:19] Speaker A: I didn't get it.
[01:02:20] Speaker B: What do you mean you didn't get it?
[01:02:22] Speaker A: I didn't get it. As a kid, I didn't get it, and I don't think I get it now.
[01:02:25] Speaker B: I didn't get it. It was. It's funny.
[01:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah. It's the same. Because I tried Adventure Time, didn't get it.
[01:02:30] Speaker B: I think you need to retry Adventure Time.
No, I think you should. I think you'd like it.
[01:02:36] Speaker A: Do I?
Do I?
[01:02:38] Speaker B: You said you want to be released from the shackles.
[01:02:40] Speaker A: Oh, basically, I'm not.
I don't know.
[01:02:44] Speaker B: Expand your horizon. That's the only way to release yourself.
[01:02:48] Speaker A: Are you saying I have childish interests?
Like somebody we know has childish taste buds?
[01:02:54] Speaker B: Stop it.
[01:02:57] Speaker A: Okay. Actually, yeah, I should stop. Rick and Morty Steins Gate. Danny Phantom, Blue Exorcist. Kim Possible's Spy Family.
[01:03:04] Speaker B: These are stretchers. Rick and Morty was Steins gate.
[01:03:07] Speaker A: Yeah, sciency. Sciency shit.
One sad, one's funny, but when you deep it, think it's kind of sad. Rick and Morty is kind of sad.
Poor man's lost his wife, bro. That's sad as hell.
[01:03:20] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:03:21] Speaker A: And he's heavily reliant on. On Morty.
Heavy.
[01:03:29] Speaker B: No, I. I can see where you're getting the Parallels from But to me it feels like a stretch. Like I get like they're both dark in nature.
[01:03:38] Speaker A: Oh.
[01:03:39] Speaker B: But I feel like Rick and Morty is more comical.
[01:03:42] Speaker A: It is, it is a lot.
[01:03:43] Speaker B: Steins Gate is very dark. Like there's no comic in Steins Gate. There's no part that I feel like eating Steins Gate. Did you feel like you can do Steins Gate?
[01:03:53] Speaker A: You know, I wanted to compare something that I knew. Like a cartoon that I watched with Berserk and I couldn't find anything. I was so gutted thing cuz one of the characters they was Guts.
Jesus Christ. Oh my God. Entertained Such an idiot. Oh my God.
Yeah. That's it for me on my side. Let's hear about your erased.
[01:04:22] Speaker B: So I compared as I said when I was doing this made sense. But upon reflection I'm gonna just have to dig deep into my memory.
[01:04:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I have a few of those to be honest. Of what the fuck was I thinking?
[01:04:33] Speaker B: So I compared erase to Scooby Doo.
[01:04:36] Speaker A: And Scooby Dooby Doo, where are you? You got some work to do. Now that's number one. The second one is.
Damn. What's the second one that was more like more fast and cool?
[01:04:52] Speaker B: I don't know.
So while she's searching that up.
So they both deal with like mysteries and solving the mystery in a race it's the main character is trying to solve the mystery of a girl that he's friends with because she ends up being kidnapped and murdered by spoiler if you haven't watched it by the school teacher. And in Scooby Doo it's just a series of like mini mysteries that they're trying to solve. So in Scooby Doo it's less serious and less dark because it's just.
It's comical, it's fun little gimmicks and little traps they do to catch the bad guy. It's just there. And in Scooby Doo it's centered around a group of five friends. Whereas in race it's one person. We have the main character, but we do also see his friends. Like when he travels back and forth between the two time, the current period time and his childhood times. We can see how his relationships with his friends have grown and changed from how they used to be close. Some of his friends he's too close with. And some of them we see the distance has gone through time because of this lingering darkness that he feels because he still hasn't been able to find out at that time who the killer of his Friend was. That's caused a wedge. Whereas in Scooby, there's no wedge. I mean, sometimes Scooby and Zinky fight, but that's not really drama. That's just them being boys. What do you mean?
[01:06:15] Speaker A: That's not drama. That is drama incorporated. Thank you very much. It's dramatic. They feel very deeply about these things.
[01:06:21] Speaker B: It's dramatic. It's not drama. It's dramatic.
[01:06:24] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:06:25] Speaker B: So.
[01:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah, when they're fighting, the team is not together, but they still find a murderer. And then at the end they become friends again, obviously.
[01:06:38] Speaker B: And Scooby gets his snacks all the time.
[01:06:41] Speaker A: All the time. Scooby snacks.
[01:06:44] Speaker B: But yeah. So I think the main similarities is the solid mystery part and the how to navigate friendships. Okay.
[01:06:54] Speaker A: But yeah, those meddling kids and I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids catchphrase. And also it's. What does Scooby Doo coming after you gonna find out mystery. I see. Scooby Doo. No, no, no, no. What? This could be.
[01:07:24] Speaker B: That was an inch and a half.
[01:07:26] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
It is no wonder why I like alternative music.
[01:07:35] Speaker B: What? Star.
[01:07:36] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. These are the origin stories.
[01:07:39] Speaker B: Where did mine start from?
[01:07:41] Speaker A: We are fighting it. Literally everything. The roots of everything has an anime path.
[01:07:47] Speaker B: But most anime themes tunes aren't rock songs. Yeah.
[01:07:51] Speaker A: So no surprise.
[01:07:52] Speaker B: My favorite like. Like song to walk to. It's Noragami's theme song.
[01:07:58] Speaker A: Ah la la. It's fantastic. It is interesting.
[01:08:02] Speaker B: Noragami's theme song. If I'm having a bad day, it would normally start with either like NF the artist or Naragami.
[01:08:09] Speaker A: There was a time in my life where my alarm song there were actually just two parts was Beyonce's upgrade.
[01:08:21] Speaker B: You okay? I see it.
[01:08:22] Speaker A: I wake up in the morning where you hurt in bed broken baby where you birthed me at and the devil wrecked the audacity happen with your current is back baby. It seems like everywhere I go I see you. I literally until quite recently when I changed my phone, my work phone, it was fighting the Naruto intro. We are fighting through my. Yeah yeah. And like all including the little like lightning electric bit in the front. It starts with like this buzzing that would definitely wake you up. And if that don't wake you up. You see the.
The honestly, if we haven't slept like.
[01:09:10] Speaker B: In the morning and she leaves her phone downstairs.
[01:09:13] Speaker A: The whole house is vibrating, bro. I hear it from upstairs.
[01:09:19] Speaker B: And it's literally the person who gets annoyed. The first is the one that has to Move.
[01:09:26] Speaker A: Oh, my God, that alarm.
From what? What? 2015 to 2025. 2024.
[01:09:35] Speaker B: Oh, wow.
[01:09:36] Speaker A: That's a long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is a time as a whole, baby.
[01:09:41] Speaker B: To the next segment.
[01:09:42] Speaker A: To the next segment.
[01:09:44] Speaker B: Our fake female characters.
[01:09:45] Speaker A: Yo.
[01:09:46] Speaker B: It's based off a game I we saw on Tick Tock.
[01:09:48] Speaker A: On Tick Tock.
[01:09:49] Speaker B: Where? Why are you hiding the screen from me?
[01:09:51] Speaker A: Because mine is in order.
[01:09:52] Speaker B: Is it?
[01:09:53] Speaker A: Yeah, it's in order of how I'm gonna ask you. So I don't want you to see it because yours is on your phone. Yeah, mine is on here.
[01:09:59] Speaker B: Okay. Do you want to start or shall I start?
[01:10:01] Speaker A: No, no, you start. You start.
[01:10:02] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:10:03] Speaker A: All right. How does this thing go? Should we explain how it goes?
[01:10:05] Speaker B: So I'm gonna list characters. So we're gonna start with one, and she has. And we're gonna actually start with two actually. You have to say which one she likes the most, and eventually we find.
[01:10:14] Speaker A: Out which one's like, all time favorites.
[01:10:15] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's on her to get it right. Because you can't fight me for her options because she gave me these options.
[01:10:21] Speaker A: I know what you mean. So I can buy with yourself.
Yeah.
[01:10:26] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:10:27] Speaker A: Internal monologue. That's what it's called. Remembrance.
God damn it.
[01:10:33] Speaker B: Share that.
[01:10:35] Speaker A: Ruminations.
[01:10:37] Speaker B: Ruminations. So we had a list. Well, so we gave each other a list of 15, and I cut mine down to 10 to give it so she wouldn't be able to, like, guess or premeditate and answer.
[01:10:46] Speaker A: I'm very worried about the ones that she's cut out, to be honest.
[01:10:48] Speaker B: You don't know who I cut out yet, though.
[01:10:49] Speaker A: I'm just saying.
[01:10:51] Speaker B: What was your favorite? You should have said so.
[01:10:53] Speaker A: I don't know.
[01:10:53] Speaker B: You should have started it.
[01:10:54] Speaker A: I gave you a 15. I trusted your judgment. But now.
[01:10:57] Speaker B: But you were also meant to cut mine down.
[01:10:58] Speaker A: Having cold feet, bro. I'm cold feet. But you know what?
[01:11:02] Speaker B: The rules of the game, what I.
[01:11:03] Speaker A: Decided to do for you, I did this for you, bro.
[01:11:06] Speaker B: Did you know?
[01:11:06] Speaker A: For you, bro.
[01:11:07] Speaker B: You just honored the rules of the.
[01:11:08] Speaker A: Game for you, bruh. I said I can't pick for her. These are her auto time, fame. She's gonna.
[01:11:13] Speaker B: She.
[01:11:13] Speaker A: She gets all the options, you know, at the buffet, I said, I promise you 10, but you get 15 still.
[01:11:20] Speaker B: I'm gonna say you didn't have the heart to look through my options to my lifelines. Your lifelines?
[01:11:24] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:11:25] Speaker B: You actually had 11, and you said take out tanadi, so now you have 10.
[01:11:28] Speaker A: Well, I said you could have added someone from my list before.
[01:11:32] Speaker B: Okay, sorry. Let me go back to your original list and add in an extra one.
[01:11:35] Speaker A: Thank you very much.
[01:11:36] Speaker B: Okay, we shall start with the extra one. So it's not my list, so I don't get confused.
Okay.
[01:11:44] Speaker A: Okay.
Okay, ladies. Now let's get information.
Slay a trick and you get eliminated.
[01:12:01] Speaker B: First one is Yamato Complete versus Akame from a Kamika Kill.
[01:12:05] Speaker A: See, now I told you that. That Yamato is wrong. I made a mistake.
[01:12:09] Speaker B: Who do you want to say? Yamato.
[01:12:10] Speaker A: It's Yamato. But she's from One Piece.
[01:12:12] Speaker B: Okay. Yamato from One Piece versus Akama Gakil. Oh.
[01:12:18] Speaker A: Oh, wow. We're starting strong, huh? That's what I said, boy.
Oh, shit. Yamato.
[01:12:28] Speaker B: Oh, Akame from Kangaky.
[01:12:29] Speaker A: Akame.
[01:12:30] Speaker B: Okay, so Akame wins the first round. So Akame versus Akatsuki Log Horizon.
[01:12:36] Speaker A: Oh, Akame.
[01:12:37] Speaker B: Okay. Wins second round.
Akane Psychopath versus Akame.
[01:12:46] Speaker A: Akane. Okay, Psychopath.
[01:12:49] Speaker B: Akane is.
Akane versus Kagura from Gintama.
[01:12:54] Speaker A: Oh, Kagura.
[01:12:55] Speaker B: Kagura.
[01:12:56] Speaker A: Oh, I love Kagura, though. Ah.
Oh, my. Oh, my God.
Oh, okay.
Kakarai is a badass. However I can.
[01:13:16] Speaker B: Ikane.
[01:13:17] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm sticking with my girl.
[01:13:18] Speaker B: Okay, so Kanye is winning Akane versus Revie.
[01:13:24] Speaker A: Don't do this to me. Why did I put this on the list?
I mean, I was just making a list of women that I liked.
[01:13:30] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the whole point. Remember?
[01:13:33] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[01:13:34] Speaker B: The game is your favorite female characters.
[01:13:36] Speaker A: This is impossible. No, no, no. You know, like, when I was making this list, in my defense, I was making a list of my favorite.
[01:13:44] Speaker B: As you should.
[01:13:45] Speaker A: It didn't occur to me, but you have to pick. I would have to pick one.
I was. Did you see? I sent you, like, three, four drafts. I was so excited when I was making it because I kept remembering. I'm like, oh, my God. No. Never put this one. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Take that one out.
[01:13:58] Speaker B: That's why I'm saying you can always fight on yourself, and you get the wrong person. If you think you're wrong, it's your. It's your own fault.
[01:14:04] Speaker A: I love R. Literally. What year? 200.
[01:14:07] Speaker B: I can't remember.
[01:14:08] Speaker A: 22. I went as Revy.
[01:14:11] Speaker B: Oh, Comic Con. Yeah, 22.
[01:14:20] Speaker A: A.
[01:14:21] Speaker B: A. Yeah. Okay.
Are we sure? I'm gonna give you a second to say I'm sure.
[01:14:28] Speaker A: Very, very.
Akane has a, like, a place in my heart. That's like, in a philosophical sense. I just gravitate. Towards.
[01:14:39] Speaker B: Okay.
Akane versus Shiro from Dead Man Wonderland.
[01:14:44] Speaker A: Oh, okay, this is easy. Akane. However, Shiro is a big badass.
[01:14:51] Speaker B: She is.
[01:14:52] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, a psychopath, but a badass nonetheless.
[01:14:59] Speaker B: Akane vs Esdeath from Akameka Kill.
[01:15:02] Speaker A: Obviously. Akane Esdeath. Love that crazy woman to death.
Because she would love you to death.
However, Akane.
[01:15:14] Speaker B: Okay, Akane versus Sarah. Is it Sarah Helsinger.
[01:15:19] Speaker A: Oh, Sarah's Seras. Ah.
[01:15:22] Speaker B: Helsing.
[01:15:23] Speaker A: Helsing. Okay, now this one. Oh, this.
This could. This could actually tip. Ooh.
Okay.
I can't believe I'm doing this.
[01:15:43] Speaker B: Find out your ultimate fave.
[01:15:44] Speaker A: I actually can't believe I'm doing this.
Do I look like I need this much?
[01:15:56] Speaker B: You must do.
[01:15:57] Speaker A: I must do, right?
I kind of.
[01:16:03] Speaker B: Okay, let me just cross her out.
[01:16:05] Speaker A: We should bear in mind, I have watched psychopaths, like, ten times. No, not up to ten times, but we're getting there.
[01:16:13] Speaker B: Okay. Akane versus Yoriichi or Bleach.
[01:16:22] Speaker A: I say this Yoriichi is one of the first anime characters that I ever like Stanned.
I wanted to be her.
Since time, I've been saying, I'm going to go as Yoriichi for Halloween one day.
It hasn't happened yet because I actually thought, I've changed my mind. I'm not gonna go as Mikey anymore.
[01:16:44] Speaker B: What do you want to do?
[01:16:45] Speaker A: I'm gonna go as your one.
[01:16:47] Speaker B: Which one?
[01:16:48] Speaker A: What's her name?
Keltie from Durora.
But anyway, no, I had to search.
[01:16:59] Speaker B: Up her actual name.
So that's why I put in brackets Headless Rider. I know her as a headless rider.
[01:17:05] Speaker A: I was like, yeah, I hear you.
Like, the first time I watched a. I said, what? I had to watch it again.
[01:17:13] Speaker B: I liked it.
[01:17:14] Speaker A: I did. Here's the thing. When I. When I watched it, I said, I kind of watched it and I liked it. But I didn't get. I didn't know what was going on. I could have followed the story.
[01:17:23] Speaker B: It's like a chess game.
[01:17:24] Speaker A: And then it got to, like, the end. Ish. And I was like, oh. And that's how I had to go back. I had to go back.
I was kind of. I was a bit dense. But back to your thing. It's Akane v Yorichi.
Oh, my God, don't do this to me.
But I say with my full chest, Akane.
[01:17:57] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Akane versus Urza or Fairytale.
[01:18:02] Speaker A: Oh, you see, I think he shouldn't have put Akane first because, like, there's A few that like, for example, I'll pick.
Please pardon me. Like, if it was like a. What's her name?
[01:18:17] Speaker B: Her.
[01:18:18] Speaker A: Erza versus Mikasa.
That. Oh, I would have loved to see that. Who would I pick? Who would I actually pick, though?
[01:18:26] Speaker B: I think you pick Nakata.
[01:18:28] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:18:28] Speaker B: I knew. I thought you were going to.
No, I just know you too well.
[01:18:37] Speaker A: Okay. Erza and Akane. I like Erza. She's very. She's a badass. She's very strong. She's. She's. She's very motherly. She's like an older sister in a sense.
Akane, Final test.
[01:18:53] Speaker B: I say final test.
[01:18:54] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:18:55] Speaker B: Akane versus Mikasa.
[01:18:59] Speaker A: This one's easy. Mikasa's a dumbass.
Akane. Thank you very much.
[01:19:04] Speaker B: And we have a winner. Akane is a chena spade girl.
Do you have any conflicts with yourself?
[01:19:11] Speaker A: I have no robust at all. Thank you very much.
I'm very happy.
[01:19:16] Speaker B: Who would you pick as your second and third if you had to pick one?
[01:19:21] Speaker A: Unohana.
[01:19:22] Speaker B: She was cut off a list.
[01:19:23] Speaker A: Exactly.
[01:19:24] Speaker B: Were you upset by that?
[01:19:25] Speaker A: No, not really.
She. She's a underrated. Like she goes under the radar. But I mean, do you know what it takes to be Kimbachi? The ruthlessness it takes to be Kenpachi. Like the ooh ooh la la. And then like she makes the ultimate sacrifice not for her sake, but for the sake of Soul Society and Zaraki Kenpachi.
I mean, talk about character.
Talk about power, grit. Talk about beauty.
[01:20:04] Speaker B: Okay. And the third.
[01:20:09] Speaker A: Yorici.
[01:20:10] Speaker B: You cut Yoriichi off in like four.
[01:20:12] Speaker A: To last round for number one.
I cut her for number one.
[01:20:19] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:20:19] Speaker A: Because I like what she stands for.
[01:20:22] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:20:22] Speaker A: As well. It was actually quite hard because they. They. They're very similar in a sense. Right.
Yoriichi was kind of cut out of Soul Society because she betrayed them with the whole Urahara shit and stuff and holification and all of that. And Akane in season three is in jail.
[01:20:46] Speaker B: Didn't watch season three? Yeah.
[01:20:47] Speaker A: Our girl is in jail and there's a lot going on there.
[01:20:51] Speaker B: Was it after she refused to be the part of the civil.
[01:20:53] Speaker A: No, no. They deemed her a bit of a danger as a society.
[01:20:59] Speaker B: What? A late turned criminal.
[01:21:01] Speaker A: No, she's clear.
Technically.
[01:21:06] Speaker B: I have to watch season three. I think I watched. I stopped at season two. I didn't even know season three was out.
[01:21:10] Speaker A: The thing is, it took me a while to actually get into season three. Because it throws you off a bit.
[01:21:13] Speaker B: No.
[01:21:13] Speaker A: Is it season three or season four? I don't remember one of them anyway. She's in jail. It kind of throws you out because it doesn't start with the people that we know.
[01:21:21] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:21:21] Speaker A: These are new characters, and I'm like, what? And then only one of them I remember from the previous season. So I'm like, what's going on? I kind of. Sometimes I try to. I like to alienate myself from, like, the novels or the whatevers, because I did that with bleach, and I was very upset.
What?
[01:21:37] Speaker B: You read the manga as you're watching anime?
[01:21:39] Speaker A: I read the manga and I was like, oh. So I had to go back to go read the. The manga from the beginning because there's certain things that didn't exactly make it to the anime.
[01:21:54] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:21:54] Speaker A: Yeah. And maybe certain storylines as well. That was quite confusing for me at that point because they hadn't made it clear in the anime.
There's also another thing. Was it fairy tale that when the anime finished, I also tried to go to the manga and read the manga, and I said.
I was like, okay, whatever, man.
What else did it happen with?
So, yeah, I tend to just stay away from, like, I just. Let me just stay in this world. But there are pros and cons to it, though, especially with the. The new solo leveling.
[01:22:34] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:22:35] Speaker A: It's literally parallel. Yeah. It's like, copy. It's almost exactly the same thing.
[01:22:40] Speaker B: So that's.
[01:22:41] Speaker A: That's actually not bad. But yeah. We have our winner.
Okay, your turn. Your turn. Are you ready?
[01:22:53] Speaker B: Ready.
[01:22:53] Speaker A: Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready?
Nasal Cor from Demon Slayer and Yona from Dawn Cat.
[01:23:03] Speaker B: Yona.
[01:23:04] Speaker A: Yes.
No, Yona.
[01:23:08] Speaker B: Okay, so Yona of the Dawn Nezuko is a cutie, but she's also a fighter. She is literally the strongest demon I feel because she's the only one that can stand, that can actually be in sunlight, which all the other demons cannot. It's their weakness. By that default, she wins my heart.
I haven't. No, no, no. I'm debating.
[01:23:28] Speaker A: Ah, okay. I thought she had won your heart already over Yona, but no, because Yona.
[01:23:34] Speaker B: Has a harem of boys, you know?
[01:23:38] Speaker A: I beg your pardon?
[01:23:39] Speaker B: She's like a harem of boys. She is so.
[01:23:41] Speaker A: She was so it's like a reverse harem thing.
[01:23:43] Speaker B: It's not reverse harem. It's ish. So she gets outskirted from her kingdom. She's a rape. She was meant to be the crowned queen after her father passed. So she gets outscurred, and then she has Haku, who was her best friend, bodyguard, who helps her escape. And then they're out on this journey trying to find the other warriors that are in debt, that are meant to fight with her. So it's her and all these men that are banners to her. And they all love her.
So she can fight herself. She learns how to use a sword. Haku teaches her how to fight so she's not weak. She's so a. She's an outskirt of princess trying to get back into her realm to see the world. And she's out here doing a little bit of politics, a little fighting, trying to find her bannerman is. She's a. She's a fighter.
But who do I like the most between the two of them?
[01:24:41] Speaker A: He is in weight. It's like, o. Who's it going to be?
No, I'm doing faces in anticipation of like, drumroll.
[01:25:02] Speaker B: I'm gonna choose.
It's not Nezuko. I want to be in the harem.
[01:25:10] Speaker A: This is not about you. You know what I was gonna say? I was gonna say, yeah, as you were describing this, you know, situation, I said, you want to beat this girl, don't you? Like, remember, this is not you.
So you want to stand in the sunlight.
[01:25:27] Speaker B: She stands in the sunlight.
She grazes her feet in the grass as well.
[01:25:33] Speaker A: But technically, though, thing is, brothers, friends are Internet.
[01:25:38] Speaker B: One of them.
[01:25:39] Speaker A: Just one. I thought the other one was into as well.
[01:25:41] Speaker B: No.
[01:25:41] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. No, no, no. The beast one. No, no, no.
[01:25:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it's just Zanetsu. Yeah, just one of them. So, yeah, Yona wins.
[01:25:46] Speaker A: Okay. Yenna or cruel Tepes from the end.
[01:25:53] Speaker B: Cruel.
[01:25:56] Speaker A: Cool.
[01:25:56] Speaker B: Yeah, she's a demon queen. No, she's a vampire queen. And you know how to love vampire queens.
[01:26:01] Speaker A: You know what?
From Castlevania. I hear you. Ah, she could have been on the list.
Anyway, Cruel or Kelsey from Durarara.
Oh.
[01:26:19] Speaker B: Kelsey. She's. She's a cutie and she's funny with a little, like, interaction with the professor.
Yeah, she is.
[01:26:31] Speaker A: She's.
[01:26:32] Speaker B: She has character.
[01:26:33] Speaker A: So Kelsey versus Robin. Robin.
No, no. Y'all see. Hey, what is this? Okay, all right.
[01:26:42] Speaker B: No, no, no. I've loved Robin before. I started watching One Piece. I just saw her and I said, you're my girl.
No, I know.
[01:26:52] Speaker A: Because I was like, I didn't get it. This girl had never seen this thing, and she wanted to cosplay as her. I said, how I loved Robin.
[01:26:59] Speaker B: How did we get from first eyesight, from first glance? I said, you're a bad bitch.
[01:27:05] Speaker A: That was it.
That's like her thingy song.
[01:27:10] Speaker B: But no.
[01:27:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:27:12] Speaker B: I love Robyn. She is literally my favorite girl.
[01:27:14] Speaker A: Okay. Robin Harishi Suzumiya from the Melancholy of Haru.
[01:27:21] Speaker B: Harishi Harish Suzum Suzumiya Robin Harry Suzum. She's okay. All she does is try. She's trying to find things. And she's a. She's a good character, but in comparison to Robin, she's just blonde.
[01:27:35] Speaker A: No, say less, say less. In comparison to Robin has Robin's powers these days. Wild thing. So Robin and Akame from a Kameka kill Robin. Ah, I see. I see. Robin or Erza from Fairy Tale.
[01:27:56] Speaker B: I feel like Urza.
Once she does her character development and once we see her backstory and we see like in.
Yeah, she doesn't grow anymore.
[01:28:07] Speaker A: No, she does grow in terms of power, but not. Not like with, you know, substance.
[01:28:12] Speaker B: Yeah. So I'm gonna stay with Robin.
[01:28:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, she's a good character. Like, she is. Sometimes she just. Compared to the others, she kind of does fall flat.
[01:28:21] Speaker B: Almost like. I don't want to say she's like an assist character. Like, you know when you're playing a game and you have the main character and then you have an assist character. That's what she gives me.
[01:28:30] Speaker A: Yeah. But like, I feel like compare her to all the other women. Female characters, in my opinion. I mean, Lucy.
Lucy grows insides me.
She reminds me of Sakura. They do embody the same energy for no reason. Why are you crying? Natsu. Natsu, Natsu. Every time, all the time.
Why Fight for yourself, big man. I mean, eventually she does and they do. That's what she said. She grows.
[01:29:05] Speaker B: She grows, you know.
[01:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah. And then. What's the name of that one?
Mirel Miraza Mereza. The one with the. With the sibling? No, in Fairy Tale.
[01:29:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:29:17] Speaker A: They made her out to. I mean, obviously she starts off like quite soft, and then they made her out to be like, evil and like badass. Like. And then after that arc, nothing.
[01:29:28] Speaker B: She goes back to herself.
[01:29:30] Speaker A: And then it's not until there's some tournament where there's like power up done and then like the next evil person that comes. Just all of them. Actually, that's actually something that pissed me off about Fairy Tale. They'll power up and then the next evil person and then train an arc and then fight, fight, fight, fight. And then tournament, and then during the tournament, power up again.
[01:29:54] Speaker B: Isn't that Naruto as well?
[01:29:56] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:29:58] Speaker B: They don't have turnovers. There's a training arc or a character building arc where they learn new powers.
[01:30:03] Speaker A: You don't learn new powers. The powers are already in there. And like, it's just. It's basically right. It's not a new power. It's the power that say. For example, we already know he's got like, wind, right? So they're trying to develop. They're trying to make him come up with something that he could do with his chakra. With wind or.
[01:30:19] Speaker B: Yeah, but we can see that with Natsu and his Dragonfire.
[01:30:22] Speaker A: No. What?
[01:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah, he.
[01:30:25] Speaker A: Dragon Fire.
[01:30:26] Speaker B: We know he has a dragonfire. And it just grows and grows and grows and grows. He just learns to use it in a different way.
[01:30:33] Speaker A: It's not the same.
[01:30:34] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:30:35] Speaker A: It's not. Because with Fairy Tale, it's not until the end, the final arc, where we realize what that they're working towards something.
[01:30:41] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:30:42] Speaker A: But with Naruto, there's a storyline. There's proper progress there. There's proper, proper character development there. And that's why when the power up comes, it's. It's palatable. But with Fairy Tale, it's very gimmicky. And I'm so sorry to say this, it's very Dragon Ball Z.
[01:30:59] Speaker B: Your opinion?
[01:31:00] Speaker A: My opinion.
[01:31:01] Speaker B: Next one.
[01:31:02] Speaker A: Yes.
I'm so sorry. What do you mean? Like, we literally went on a whole tangent there.
So you went with Erza V. Who? Robin.
[01:31:13] Speaker B: Robin. Robin1.
[01:31:14] Speaker A: Robin, then Robin V. Faye Valentine from Cowboy Bebop.
[01:31:20] Speaker B: Faye's a cutie. Do you not sing like women? Like, Faye's like background story and where she gets it, it's just funny.
[01:31:29] Speaker A: Like, she gives me like Nami vibes.
[01:31:31] Speaker B: Does she really?
[01:31:32] Speaker A: Yes, she does. They're both thieves, but it's not her. Because they won't steal away on a ship to take advantage of the men on the. Tell me how they're not the same people.
[01:31:43] Speaker B: She's running away from Dirt Channel. It's not even her.
[01:31:46] Speaker A: It was trying to run away from freaking. What's the name of that fish guy?
[01:31:50] Speaker B: Arin Arwin. No, it's Arong.
[01:31:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:31:54] Speaker B: She's trying to get money for Aron to free her people.
She wasn't.
Anyway.
Who you say again?
[01:32:03] Speaker A: Ah, Fay Valentine. V. Robin.
[01:32:10] Speaker B: Robin. She's less selfish than V.
You know.
[01:32:13] Speaker A: What I think, based on your dedication to Robin, I'm having a new appreciation for her. Because she is quite literally an archaeologist. She is a student of the world. She's trying to get to the roof. Like the people. Ah, you're not there yet.
I shall not spoil. She likes spoilers, so I do.
[01:32:32] Speaker B: I was ready to hit Nicole's story.
[01:32:34] Speaker A: I know, right? I saw your voice. I said I actually wanted. Let me take it away to the bar.
[01:32:43] Speaker B: Okay, fine, fine, fine.
[01:32:44] Speaker A: Robin wins. Yes. And you don't even know the story of this woman by the way yet. And there's so much loyalty. What would happen when you actually find out her story?
[01:32:53] Speaker B: I will love her even more.
[01:32:54] Speaker A: That's actually so wild to me.
[01:32:57] Speaker B: I will love her even more. I feel like I might even get a second phone case to show my love of her.
[01:33:06] Speaker A: Yeah. From the same guy. From the same company.
[01:33:09] Speaker B: I hope that they have a Robin.
[01:33:11] Speaker A: He mainly has like make popular ones, but we can always check his his site.
Oh, do you want to show the people the. The case? It's a lovely case. I want to get the Zar case.
[01:33:23] Speaker B: It's Zorro. A little cutie.
[01:33:25] Speaker A: It's really cool. I want to get the one he has for Luffy as well.
[01:33:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Because when you bought this one, you had the option to choose.
[01:33:32] Speaker A: Yes. You have several. You have. There's one for Law. I believe there's one for Sanji. There's different ones. There's Demon slayer ones as well. There's. Yeah. Like I think quite a few. Like I think there's a trainsaw man 1 maybe you can get from him. I'm not quite sure, but yeah.
Okay. So Robin Winter.
[01:33:50] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:33:51] Speaker A: So Robin and Yemeko Jabami from Kageko Kai G.
[01:34:01] Speaker B: So she's the main character. She is. I don't know if she has a death wish, but she enjoys gambling her life, as I said previously.
[01:34:07] Speaker A: What would she be? Would she be a masochist or a satist?
[01:34:11] Speaker B: Well, cuz she likes some floats in plane or cuz she likes receiving plane.
[01:34:15] Speaker A: I think she receives it like torture. She doesn't deal it though, does she? Maybe it's the tension that she likes. The little like the tenderness.
[01:34:24] Speaker B: It's a suspense.
[01:34:25] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:34:25] Speaker B: She's not adrenaline junkie. Adrenaline junkie?
[01:34:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that's the word. She's an adrenaline junkie. That's wild. So who.
[01:34:35] Speaker B: You see, she has this vibe where she's like, I will step on anyone that I like so much. Do you know what I mean? Like there's a little. There's a level of like.
What's it called?
It's not. There's self awareness to it because she knows her strengths and weaknesses, but there's a level of delusionness that says, I don't care what you think. I'm gonna go for whatever I want, you know? Like it's a little bit delusional. Like, but it's. It's an attractive delusional. I'm rooting for her in. In her delusion.
[01:35:06] Speaker A: So who you got?
[01:35:08] Speaker B: I'm very conflicted because I love.
[01:35:10] Speaker A: Let me tell you, Robin's backstory. I feel like you need the full picture for this one. So Robin, she comes from this island where they're all. Well, I don't know actually if she comes from there, but they all gather. Her mum, her mom's professor, and whole people who are intellectuals, right? They sacrifice everything for knowledge, right? So these people are looking for the truth about what happened during the period when nobody knows what happened during that period. It's a void period, like 800 years, I believe.
And so she and her mum and the people that she care about, cares about, who are pretty much like a family, they are on this island and they're. I think they're pretty much about to find out the truth. They've kind of decoded the language that are on these poneglyphs. Okay, you've gotten to the Ponegly Cliffs part, right?
[01:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:35:57] Speaker A: Right. They're on this poneglyphs that explain the truth. And if you put them all together, you find out the truth or you find yourself where Laugh Tale is and you know the truth.
So they were doing that. So the world government finds out about this. Bum bum bum bum bum.
[01:36:11] Speaker B: They kill them all.
[01:36:12] Speaker A: They kill them all. Kill them all. And she is the last, the only survivor. And.
And at this point she's like 8 or so. And they put like a 40 million berry bounty on her head.
[01:36:28] Speaker B: Poor child.
[01:36:29] Speaker A: Mad thing. So. So now you know why she did the thing she did with Crocodile. Because she's. So now she knows how to decode that language that's in the poneglyphs. Right? So now she's with Luffy. And that's dangerous.
[01:36:40] Speaker B: Why is it dangerous?
[01:36:43] Speaker A: Luffy is one of the Yonkais. Luffy. He's the image that normal people have of him is that he's a villain.
[01:36:51] Speaker B: I suppose.
[01:36:52] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. He's this evil pirate. But I think anyway, like, obviously the people that know, they know. But I think.
Well, you never really know. But I think that's what majority of the people who are not in this pirate world think about him, most likely.
But they could also be rooting for him. I don't really know. But anyway, so now obviously she's this weapon. They called her the demon child.
[01:37:16] Speaker B: Because she has knowledge.
[01:37:17] Speaker A: Because she has knowledge. And that's the Thing. Because she can decode something that's been kept secret. Secret for years and years and years and years. And the world government doesn't want people to know. And she has access to be able to decode this language, this lost language from 800 years ago from this group of people that decided to do this and split it around the world. And so now she's. She's the key to decoding it.
And so far I think he pretty much has every one apart from like one or two.
And so he's very close. And the world government, they don't want that.
[01:37:51] Speaker B: So Luffy's found the polyglyphs. Luffy?
[01:37:53] Speaker A: Yes. So it's not just Luffy.
Everyone is looking for the poneglyphs. When you get to the second part of after the line, what's that thing called the Grand Line? There's the Grand Line, the first phase. And then there's the second phase, which is like after Punk Hazard.
That's. No, not Punk Hazard.
After.
Oh, just before. Oh, Time Skip. Time Skip? Yeah, so just after the time. So after the time skip is like kind of the second part of the Grand Line where they keep going.
So that. That's her story. Her story. She also has links, by the way, to the Revolutionary Army. Who? You don't know this part yet? So spiders, for those who haven't seen one piece. Sorry, I should have probably said that earlier.
Which you like spoilers.
[01:38:47] Speaker B: Yeah, of course.
[01:38:48] Speaker A: I don't like when I'm doing this, but it's got links to Luffy's dad as well.
[01:38:54] Speaker B: Ah, okay.
[01:38:55] Speaker A: And during the time skip, she spent some time there with the Revolutionary army. And also the Revolutionary Army Luffy has. I'm not going to spoil this one for you, Lucy. Lucy Fraser. Jesus. Luffy is also connected in two ways to the Revolutionary Army. And obviously she spends time with the Revolutionary army. And so he live because of her being connected to Luffy. And what Luffy could possibly find out. She's a very dangerous person. To be left alone and not to be chased.
[01:39:29] Speaker B: To be killed because of Luffy. Her friendship with Luffy and her knowledge.
[01:39:33] Speaker A: Just. Just her knowledge alone. They put like a 40 million berry bounty on her at 10 years old.
Like, how would a child like that survive in a bad, bad world?
She's goated. She actually. She really is goated.
It's wild.
So compare that to Yemiko Jabami.
I'm so sorry. I. Why me and my tangents. Jesus.
Tough, huh?
[01:40:09] Speaker B: Cuz who doesn't love a cycle?
[01:40:14] Speaker A: I'm the one to judge.
[01:40:22] Speaker B: We go with Robin.
[01:40:23] Speaker A: Robin, Robin or Anna from Shaman King.
[01:40:30] Speaker B: Anna's a cutie. I put her on there for fun.
[01:40:34] Speaker A: Right. Okay. So obviously Robin, Robin or Saber from Fate Stay Night.
[01:40:41] Speaker B: Have you watched Fate Stay Night?
[01:40:42] Speaker A: I have not. But I know who she is.
[01:40:45] Speaker B: Do you know her backstory?
[01:40:46] Speaker A: I do not. Shall I? Let me be enlightened.
[01:40:51] Speaker B: I can't remember myself.
[01:40:52] Speaker A: Ah, hello.
I remember the black guy with the white hair.
[01:40:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[01:40:58] Speaker A: He was the one that almost made me watch it. But he wasn't thirsty. I wasn't thirsty enough. So to figure it out.
[01:41:05] Speaker B: Savor.
Do I like Saver more?
Savor is just a knight.
[01:41:15] Speaker A: Wow.
[01:41:16] Speaker B: I'm gonna pick.
[01:41:17] Speaker A: She went from oh, she's pretty cool actually to oh, you know. Her backstory is quite interesting actually too. She's just a knight.
[01:41:23] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:41:23] Speaker A: Robin.
Okay.
Oh, this is good. Robin vs Yuno Gasai from Mirai. Nikki.
[01:41:31] Speaker B: But you know how much I love. You know.
[01:41:33] Speaker A: I do know how much you love Yuno.
[01:41:34] Speaker B: I also did cosplay. Ask her.
[01:41:36] Speaker A: I do know this.
Like I said, I didn't take a thing out because I thought they were all pretty cool.
[01:41:43] Speaker B: Did you really?
[01:41:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I liked your list a lot.
[01:41:51] Speaker B: You know.
[01:41:52] Speaker A: You know?
[01:41:53] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:41:54] Speaker A: Yuno Gasai versus Yoriichi.
You know, Yuno Gasai versus your four Chino. Ah, there we have it. Is that the last one? That is the last one.
I said this. Careful. So you choose a sacrifice over everybody else. Wow.
[01:42:18] Speaker B: Remember I was you making Jabami dramatic.
[01:42:22] Speaker A: That's insane.
[01:42:24] Speaker B: But have you watched Mirand Nikki?
[01:42:25] Speaker A: What do you mean have I watched it? I watched it because of you. I know.
[01:42:29] Speaker B: And I watched for you.
[01:42:32] Speaker A: She gives me. Oh, what? Got Tower of God. That girl from Tower.
[01:42:37] Speaker B: No, no, no, no, no.
[01:42:38] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What's her name?
[01:42:40] Speaker B: But you know what's so funny? Like of all time faves that we watch every year. Yeah, I have one.
[01:42:46] Speaker A: Huh?
[01:42:47] Speaker B: You also Akane. You watch Akane on repeat, like non stop.
And I watch Mirror Nikki on repeat non stop. There's not a year that's gone past that I have not said to myself.
[01:42:58] Speaker A: You know what's interesting? That's not on here, but we both like the anime.
[01:43:01] Speaker B: Me. Which one?
[01:43:02] Speaker A: No game, no Life.
[01:43:04] Speaker B: So I thought about that.
[01:43:05] Speaker A: I think we need to do a dynamic duo.
[01:43:07] Speaker B: Because in no game, no life, I.
[01:43:09] Speaker A: Like Shiro, but she didn't come as a.
[01:43:11] Speaker B: But she's not. Like she's not an individual.
[01:43:13] Speaker A: Yeah, like she's not. She's not independent of the brother. Of the brother. So I feel like we need to do, like, a dynamic. Like, our fave dynamic duo.
[01:43:21] Speaker B: Because I did think of it, right? I was like, no, gonna lie. I was like, I love this anime. But as a standalone character, she's not given. Like, they come together, like, when they play chess and they switch, like, switch roles. Like when she can tell what her brother think is and do the next move. And it's like.
[01:43:37] Speaker A: It's like a biotic.
[01:43:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:43:40] Speaker A: It's a bit weird as well, the.
[01:43:43] Speaker B: Way that, like, the fact that they refused to have, like, to fight each other and said, no, we'll be king and queen. You can't just have one of us.
[01:43:50] Speaker A: Yeah.
They pulled the people of the capital. What's the name of that one?
[01:44:00] Speaker B: Which one? Second Titan.
[01:44:01] Speaker A: No, no, no. The capital.
[01:44:04] Speaker B: Hunger Games.
[01:44:04] Speaker A: Hunger Games. It's given Hunger Games.
[01:44:06] Speaker B: It wasn't survival the fittest.
[01:44:08] Speaker A: No, no. Where they were like, oh, you got to pick both of. Both of us.
[01:44:11] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, yeah.
[01:44:12] Speaker A: She did the berries, and they were gonna eat the berries.
[01:44:13] Speaker B: That's funny because when they were fighting. I say fighting. When they had to verse tat who pulled them into the. Into this. Into the world. They were like, it's. You have to do it together.
[01:44:23] Speaker A: Was that my first isekai?
[01:44:24] Speaker B: I don't know.
[01:44:25] Speaker A: I believe so.
[01:44:26] Speaker B: Well, no game in the life was my first isekai. I think it's the only no game, no life followed by Rise of the shield Hero. And then there's also re zero.
[01:44:37] Speaker A: I didn't get into RE zero.
[01:44:38] Speaker B: I actually quite, like, re zeroed. Like, the story behind it is actually interesting. So those were my first three isekais.
[01:44:45] Speaker A: Oh, dungeon. Picking up ladies in the dungeon.
[01:44:51] Speaker B: I like danmachi. I watched it quite. Yeah. I think I watched that match, like, last year, though, for the first time.
[01:44:56] Speaker A: Really?
[01:44:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:44:57] Speaker A: Oh, my. I think that was one of my first ones.
I want to say that that's an isekai, but I don't think it is an isekai.
[01:45:03] Speaker B: No, it isn't. Isekai.
[01:45:04] Speaker A: It is. Okay.
[01:45:06] Speaker B: It's a new world. That's how isekais are defined. Remember we did. We had a debate to other worlds.
[01:45:14] Speaker A: Yes. We had to really deep dive.
You gotta be specific, specificity.
[01:45:20] Speaker B: Because we, like. I was saying things. She's like, but he didn't go into the new world.
[01:45:23] Speaker A: I said, but that's not how it's.
[01:45:24] Speaker B: Akaise. I defined. We had to go through it.
[01:45:26] Speaker A: I think this started with. Because I didn't Remember the beginning of Goblin Slayer? Okay, yeah, yeah, I forgot that little bit in the beginning that said it was like another world. Goblin Slayer, that beginning.
Anyway, yeah, that's the end of that. On to the next one. On to the next. On to the next. The next. Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick snack.
[01:45:50] Speaker B: Quick snack.
[01:45:51] Speaker A: Quick snack.
[01:45:51] Speaker B: Quick midnight snack.
Red light. Green light.
[01:45:56] Speaker A: Red light. Green light. Red light, Green light.
[01:45:57] Speaker B: Based off narrator because we're doing a full anime scene this week.
[01:46:00] Speaker A: Down straight.
[01:46:02] Speaker B: So team seven.
[01:46:03] Speaker A: Team seven. Yeah. Naruto, Saskatchewan. Sasuke. Sakura. So red light, green light.
[01:46:07] Speaker B: Green light. Naruto. Red light, Sakura. Red light. Sasuke.
Sasuke is a bad. But he's a troubled child. Sakura, you grow. You. You grow. But I don't. I don't like it when you. After you grow, Naruto, you always have a heart. You're Cutie. You're Hokage. You fight for your friends, you fight.
[01:46:26] Speaker A: For your village, and you fight for your family.
[01:46:28] Speaker B: Damn right.
[01:46:30] Speaker A: That's a good man.
[01:46:31] Speaker B: What's your red light? Green light.
[01:46:33] Speaker A: Exactly the same.
Fuck that bitch. I don't know her. I already went on a tangent about this girl. Ain't no way she's not even getting a bloody amber. I don't like her. I'm so sorry, but I just don't. I also don't think that she and Sasuke should have ended up together. I think she should have gone with Sai.
I think they're very well seated. And I think Sasuke could have just been the end of the Uchiha done.
[01:46:58] Speaker B: That would have made more sense to the storyline as well, because his whole character was Last Survivor. Yeah.
[01:47:03] Speaker A: So Ian knows Last Survivor no more.
[01:47:05] Speaker B: Therefore we should have just ended this. Being by himself, growing old being Naruto's romance.
[01:47:10] Speaker A: They make clones anyway. So like they could have just recovered the eye, you know what I mean?
And I'm sure like Otsutsuki, because then people, they're still there. So at some point, if they trickle down, trickle down, they'll eventually get Lucia. So Sharingan. So that was. What's all that about? And then there's the relegant thing that they. All of them have, which just Sharingan irrelevant.
[01:47:34] Speaker B: That's not true.
[01:47:35] Speaker A: I said what I said.
[01:47:38] Speaker B: Next.
[01:47:41] Speaker A: Haku and Zabuza.
[01:47:44] Speaker B: I'm gonna greenlight both of them. Yes, ma'am.
[01:47:48] Speaker A: Of course.
You see? You see what I'm dealing with? You see what Red Light says? Amazon, I beg you.
[01:47:55] Speaker B: Red Light told you his background story.
[01:47:57] Speaker A: Still find that man. Red Lights still.
[01:48:00] Speaker B: After I told his background. You want to say red light.
[01:48:02] Speaker A: Red light.
[01:48:03] Speaker B: He was forced to kill his teammates in general.
[01:48:07] Speaker A: Technically, Kakashi killed Obito. Do you see Kakashi doing all that?
Thank you very much. Red light. Zabuza.
[01:48:15] Speaker B: Haku.
[01:48:16] Speaker A: Haku. Green light. You know what got hackle? Amber. You're a. Isn't it of all people to follow. It's a sacrileg to choose to follow. You're like one of them. Women are like, yeah, but he loves me. He loves you? Guinea how?
Amber.
[01:48:31] Speaker B: He taught her.
[01:48:31] Speaker A: I demote you from agreeing to an Amber. A beautiful power though. And I also like you because he showed that boy the real thing. You showed that stupid Sasuke life. That was the first time Sasuke's thought, ah, this boy is actually better than me. You know. I said, good. It was too big for his boots. You get too big for your boots. Too big for his damn boots. A hob with that boy. Real good.
[01:48:54] Speaker B: I'm a green light.
[01:48:56] Speaker A: But yeah, he gets an umber for me. Inochi Kachu.
[01:49:00] Speaker B: This Team 9.
[01:49:01] Speaker A: I don't know. But Ino Shikamaru and Choji Shikamaru gets a green light from moi. Cuz if I wasn't such a fangirl for Z am a Shikamaru fangirl.
[01:49:13] Speaker B: He's a silent killer.
[01:49:15] Speaker A: You see that revenge thing he did?
I said, that's a good man.
That is a. Wow. I didn't think he could. He could get that dark. Because he was always like the little cool kid at the back of the class that's like really smart. But like he doesn't. What's that word that people like to use? But they're like, you don't something. Something.
Like you could be something, but you don't do it because you like, you can't be asked.
[01:49:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it's very nonchalant.
[01:49:47] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's not the words. It's like you don't something yourself. Like you don't. It's not challenge yourself. There's a word. I'm sure there's a word. I forget. I'm forgetting the word that's gonna hunt you now.
God damn it. But anyway, that thing where like you, you have potential, but you're not using your potential. What's that word?
Okay, sorry. Anyway, Shikamaru gets a green from me. Choji. It could be better. Amber. You know, you lost me at the crush for Sasuke. But then you gave me back when Sasuke came back and you said, who the fuck is there? So I like you. So I'm A green light. You. And when your daddy died. Spoilers if you've not watched Naruto. Oh, green light for my baby girl.
[01:50:32] Speaker B: Okay, okay. I'm a green light. You know I'm a green light. Shikamaru. I like the first season of Naruto when they're doing it.
The tournament. Yeah. And we see his first powers. I was like, ah. That's why I said, it's a slow killer.
[01:50:48] Speaker A: He's a smart one.
[01:50:49] Speaker B: He's a slow killer. He marked his territory and said, I got you.
[01:50:53] Speaker A: Got you.
And then he goes, I win. No, no, no. I quit. It was like, yeah, sorry. No, yeah, I was like. I remember that was like. I was so shocked. I was like, but why? I didn't get it. But yeah, Next one.
G and kangaroo.
[01:51:13] Speaker B: Oh, green light.
[01:51:14] Speaker A: Ah, I love G. Red light to that man. Kanguro.
Why red light?
[01:51:20] Speaker B: Because what, he tried to kill his brother?
[01:51:22] Speaker A: No, because he tried to steal cookies.
Of course it's because he tried to kill his brother. I mean, his brother was a psychopath.
[01:51:30] Speaker B: Gaara was not a psychopath. He was lonely. He was exactly like Naruto, who's isolated.
[01:51:36] Speaker A: Look, like I said, to be honest, it wasn't his fault.
[01:51:38] Speaker B: Exactly.
[01:51:39] Speaker A: He had voices in his head. However, it's exactly the same thing as Naruto. Why did Naruto not tell evil?
[01:51:44] Speaker B: Okay, I'm gonna give him an amber. Then Kankuru.
[01:51:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm giving him an amber because what he did when Sasori came, that was nice with his little puppets and stuff. Tamari gets a green light for me. I like her.
[01:51:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:51:58] Speaker A: Her character always. She was very flabbergasted that she lost to a man. I said, I know, girl.
I feel you.
[01:52:06] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:52:07] Speaker A: And Gara, his growth was tremendous.
So he gets a green light from me.
[01:52:12] Speaker B: Thank you.
[01:52:14] Speaker A: I was never gonna give Gary.
[01:52:15] Speaker B: I didn't know. I don't know where you're going.
[01:52:18] Speaker A: However, when I first started, however, I don't know who that man is in Boruto.
[01:52:23] Speaker B: That's true.
[01:52:24] Speaker A: I don't know who that man is. I saw a picture. That's all I need to know. As I said. What's that hair doing?
Looking like Sakamoto san? What's this nonsense?
Tsunade, Jiraiya and Orochimaru, they are not the original three. I'm sorry.
[01:52:41] Speaker B: No, they're not.
Okay. Tsunade gets a green light. Orochimaru gets a red, almost amber light. Like it's transitioning.
Because when we find. When we first hear Orochimaru he is a dickhead first and foremost.
But he in apparently Boruto, he's a grown man. He's changed his ways. But, you know, I haven't watched Boruto, so I'm gonna stick with what I know.
[01:53:04] Speaker A: Boruto is not canon at this point.
[01:53:09] Speaker B: Yeah. I haven't watched Veruto, so I can't. Like, I want to say, like, he's a hurt man. So he's a red flash Amber. Like, it could be an amber, but it's not like, I haven't seen that much growth in the roots based off Naruto and everything should be done. I don't. Like, there's not much for me to go off Jiraiya the furthest. Sage. Come on. I mean, the purpose Sage is very given, you know, as a title for a man. It's very giving.
So for that reason, you're like, what's between amber and green? Because that's where he would be.
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[01:54:06] Speaker B: And then the full one is like 107.
[01:54:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:54:09] Speaker B: So much lower than other ones.
[01:54:12] Speaker A: Jiraiyah. You were given Jiraiya?
[01:54:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I was like, what's between amber and green? Because that's where he would be. But I want to say he's an obvious green. But my thing is, title of the sage for a man is very telling.
[01:54:23] Speaker A: Yeah. No, I 100% agree with your Jiraiya synopsis there. He sacrificed his life.
[01:54:29] Speaker B: Green light.
[01:54:30] Speaker A: He is very strong. Fought for his country. Green light. But you see that perviness and then his love for Sanadi.
[01:54:41] Speaker B: Sacrifice, his love together, they should have personality.
[01:54:45] Speaker A: So that's why he's green.
But because he's a bit of a perv. But he. Do you think there could ever be a not polite but politically correct?
As I say it, I said, no, but amber.
But that couldn't be right. But in the world that they're in, in the jokey, jokey of it all, he's a green light. But the perviness in these this day and light is given a bit amber. Yeah. Like a yellowish green.
[01:55:19] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying.
[01:55:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
Orochimaru. Red flag. Sorry. There Ain't no really mean for you. I know what you did during the war. I hear it like, he brought them back past Hokage's back and. But red light still because of what your man Kabuto did, didn't.
[01:55:34] Speaker B: It was his, like, students.
[01:55:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Also, I ain't forgiving you for what you did to Anko. Why is Anko fat? Eh?
See, I think that was one of the things that I lost my mind with Boruto. When I saw the women, I said, finish, finish, finish, finish. I would not be watching Boruto. When I saw the women, I said, this is disrespectful. This is disrespect. Disrespect. You know, I saw the intro. Like, I actually watched it. The first thing was the death of Naruto. I thought my head was hot. I was. I was like, okay, let's see how we get here. Let's see what's happening.
And then I see, I said, is this the dream? Like, is this still. What's it called? Infinite Tsukuyomi. Because he has to be.
I said, thank you. No, thank you. Okay, so. But still, red flag for Richmond.
What he did. Like, what he did to the kid with all the bone stuff.
This man, he ruined so many people's lives, bro. You can't redeem yourself from that. I'm so sorry. You can't redeem.
[01:56:41] Speaker B: He's still doing freaking experiments.
[01:56:43] Speaker A: Experiments still.
[01:56:44] Speaker B: Today they're sanctioned. This time it's sanctioned.
[01:56:47] Speaker A: I question it. What the hell is Naruto thinking anyway?
[01:56:50] Speaker B: Head of science.
[01:56:53] Speaker A: And now smile.
[01:56:54] Speaker B: Take. I was gonna say it's like Donald Trump and his new cabinet.
[01:56:59] Speaker A: The yellow head. They're not the same. Two yellow head men. They're not the same. Stop this.
I joke, obviously, but you know, some people, they'll see this. Clip something. Take. Let's do the parallels between Naruto. I said no.
[01:57:16] Speaker B: I was Disclaimer. People don't know how I'm joking, but obviously I'm joking.
[01:57:20] Speaker A: Sanade is spoiled. Her love story with Dan was very tragic.
[01:57:26] Speaker B: She's a princess.
[01:57:27] Speaker A: Exactly. Like I said, she's spoiled.
So she's been through a lot. She's a gambler, an alcohol.
[01:57:35] Speaker B: Alcoholic, I guess.
[01:57:38] Speaker A: But she can heal herself. So she gets an umber, okay? Like a greenish yellow. Just like Jiraiya. She has bad habits, but she's very strong. She's very good. And she. She never does anything with malicious intent either. So she just has what, really bad money management. So I guess she's a green. All in all, when you weigh pervertedness with gambling, I mean, which one do you think is yellow green.
[01:58:07] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:58:07] Speaker A: They're about. Oh, they're not the same.
[01:58:09] Speaker B: They're not the same.
[01:58:10] Speaker A: But then she has debt as well and she can never. Well, she's more green than Jiraiya. She's. She's tittering on the edge there.
[01:58:27] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. So she's a green yellow and Jara is a yellow green.
[01:58:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah.
Okay. We have this team, but then I added her and her thing because of, you know. So we've got Neji, hinata, Hinata's dad, 1010 and Rocky.
[01:58:44] Speaker B: Okay, so Hinata's dad is a red flag.
You want to disagree?
[01:58:50] Speaker A: I'd say Amber. Why would you say Amber put in a very difficult situation by what nature's dad did? They were twins.
[01:58:59] Speaker B: Okay. But he was probably Hinata.
You don't agree with that either?
[01:59:07] Speaker A: No, no, no, I do. I absolutely. You do.
But I sigh that that's all I did. But he was very horrible to Hinata.
[01:59:16] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:59:16] Speaker A: But that, that is the whole out of love thing.
[01:59:21] Speaker B: Okay. Hinata is a green light. Naruto's first friend. And obviously she marries Naruto. And there's a meme that we both like, that we talk about quite often.
[01:59:31] Speaker A: For a character who's very girly and, well, who's very timid. I think she's the only timid character that I've ever liked.
Even from the beginning when she was timid.
Because Hinata now is not who she was before.
[01:59:47] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:59:48] Speaker A: But I've liked her throughout. I don't know how they managed to do that.
[01:59:52] Speaker B: I don't think she was. She liked confidence.
[01:59:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[01:59:55] Speaker B: Because of where she in her household and what she was dealing with. She was just. She lacked confidence in herself. So I don't think she was ever. I think once she got out of that situation or she learned to grow confidence in herself, we saw her full potential.
[02:00:07] Speaker A: True. Okay. No, I hear it. But Hinata is a green flag for me.
[02:00:12] Speaker B: Neji, I'm gonna put you as a yellow green.
Just because he was rude to Hinata and I didn't like that.
10 10's a green and Rock Lee is also green.
[02:00:23] Speaker A: I agree with 1010, 100% green. A girl laughs in my own heart. Weapons and weapons.
She's really cool.
[02:00:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:00:31] Speaker A: You know what?
At first I didn't actually quite like her because I thought she was going to be a bit of pick me. But she grew on me.
So I like, she used to follow nature up and down.
[02:00:41] Speaker B: But it's okay. I like, everyone has to have a crush.
[02:00:46] Speaker A: You have to have a crush. I don't think I've ever actually had, like a proper crush.
[02:00:51] Speaker B: I don't think I've had a crush apart from anime crushes. But I don't think that counts in real life. That's why I said it's not a real crush.
[02:00:57] Speaker A: Palpitate. Nothing. I just like them in it.
Is that problematic?
[02:01:02] Speaker B: No, I don't think it is.
[02:01:03] Speaker A: But I feel like it's part of, like, development because in a way you experience rejection. It's not rejection, but you experience something like it's not.
[02:01:11] Speaker B: Well, I think you just like a crush and then a crush fades and then you just move on. Is that how it happens?
[02:01:16] Speaker A: I don't know. I feel like crushes are like people that you like, but they don't like you back. Yeah, like unrequated love. That's unrequited love. It.
[02:01:23] Speaker B: That's unrequited love. Let's define crush.
[02:01:25] Speaker A: But I feel like your crush. You would like to get in a relationship with them, but you're just shy to approach them, so you never do. So to me, I just think that's really sad.
I think crushes can be unrequainted love.
[02:01:37] Speaker B: They can end up as unrequited love.
[02:01:39] Speaker A: Right. And some crushes could just end because I never go forward with the guys a day.
[02:01:43] Speaker B: Google says a romantic crush because I had to define which kind of crush I was looking for. Because it could be like that to like crush it with like a rock or something like that.
[02:01:50] Speaker A: So.
[02:01:50] Speaker B: Because it Would you like the definition? So a romantic crush as defined by Google is a strong feeling of romantic love for someone or likeness that is usually not expressed and does not last long.
So like, almost like it's compared it to like an infatuation or idealization or like a tingle. Thrill.
[02:02:07] Speaker A: A tingle?
[02:02:08] Speaker B: Well, it says thrill. I'm just.
[02:02:09] Speaker A: Well, that's the one you find attractive.
[02:02:11] Speaker B: It says thrill right there. Thrill. It smells butterflies in your stomachs so that the feelings of a crush can excite butterflies.
[02:02:19] Speaker A: Butterflies.
[02:02:22] Speaker B: Well, then you have just questions of other things, I suppose, then.
[02:02:24] Speaker A: No.
[02:02:25] Speaker B: Would you get butterflies for.
[02:02:26] Speaker A: It's like an adrenaline rush. Like when I'm about to do something, like when I'm going into an exam, I get butterflies.
[02:02:30] Speaker B: That's fair. But that's not a romantic. That's just butterflies.
[02:02:34] Speaker A: That's a thrill.
[02:02:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but that's. It's Giving you examples of how it's catching infatuation. So idealization and thrill. So based off this, I've never been infatuated by any person. I never idolize or imagine myself with another person. That makes sense.
[02:02:56] Speaker A: I don't think I've liked someone romantically in that sense.
I mean I like people, but that's just days of that does that make sense? Like I think, oh yeah, that guy's cool. Oh yeah, that girl's cool. Cool. And that's about it.
I don't dwell on it.
[02:03:16] Speaker B: As I said, if you're not an anime character, we keep it moving.
[02:03:20] Speaker A: Even then.
Even then hardcore.
[02:03:24] Speaker B: The way you stand Akane, you don't want to say that. The way you stand AK today.
[02:03:28] Speaker A: That's not a crush.
[02:03:29] Speaker B: I think Robbie is my crush currently.
[02:03:32] Speaker A: It's not a romantic feeling.
[02:03:33] Speaker B: No, it's not romantic and I guess not. It's just a likeness towards her.
Okay. I have a lightness towards Nechi however, so I agree.
[02:03:45] Speaker A: Hinata Green broccoli. Your question. Sakura is very questionable but green light. Still 10. 10 green light. Hinata's dad, Fuller number Neji.
I give him green cause his redemption arc his death.
[02:04:05] Speaker B: Not yellow. Green.
[02:04:06] Speaker A: Painful. No. How dare you. More. More green. He was a child. He was a bully. Yeah. He grew up to be a fantastic man. Very humble. He, he. He felt like he was nothing. And the only person who felt. He felt like he had power over was Hinata because even her dad thought she was trash. So what was he going to think when he was like 10 or whatever? I don't know. Audio than the rest, but still.
And he had that freaking mark on his head like he's a freaking outcast. I mean I hated on hate and he was hating.
He was a hater.
[02:04:42] Speaker B: He was angry.
[02:04:42] Speaker A: He hated this girl for no reason. He looked at her like trash.
Like your people are going to look at me like trash. You're even the trash of your people. So what? Why are you so timid? You, you're the first child of like the head of the clan. Why are you so timid?
[02:05:00] Speaker B: Because you're boy.
[02:05:01] Speaker A: No, the dad was the reason for this obviously of her behavior and then he just. I guess he copied it in it.
So. But you see when Naruto like punched him into enlightenment and he was an enlightened man from then on.
Yeah. No more sadness or just growth.
[02:05:29] Speaker B: He almost killed her.
[02:05:32] Speaker A: Well, hatred can do a lot of things.
I mean like I said, greenish amber. I'm not saying it's Child and child abuse.
[02:05:41] Speaker B: I'm gonna stay with Yellow Green.
[02:05:44] Speaker A: And he's repented. And it was such a shame he died. I was very heartbroken by this. I was very hurt by this, Sir Kishimoto. Very, very.
What did I say? I said kill Kakashi.
You actually did. I said kill Kakashi. Leave Neji alone. Like that. That would have had more of an impact.
[02:06:08] Speaker B: No, thank you.
[02:06:09] Speaker A: But there we go. Kakashi is still alive.
[02:06:11] Speaker B: Fantastic.
[02:06:11] Speaker A: Whatever, man. So now this was slightly based on like a fight that happened in like, Naruto. Naruto. Like just at the beginning. And I just added one person because why not?
[02:06:23] Speaker B: Question.
[02:06:24] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:06:24] Speaker B: Why wasn't Kuronei on your top 10, top 15 fave?
[02:06:29] Speaker A: While I like her power, she a weak bitch. She's not even stronger than freaking Sakura at the end.
[02:06:37] Speaker B: Come on. Okay.
[02:06:39] Speaker A: Sorry, Kuronei.
They're better eye powers. And like, what's that thing called?
Genjutu powers? Like, here's one.
There we go.
[02:06:53] Speaker B: Okay.
[02:06:54] Speaker A: But her powers are so cool though.
Yeah, but they're just the stronger women in Naruto than. Than her. And even the one that I thought was the strongest. Oh, Conan. Could have been one who made the list. But she's literally my favorite person. And is she my favorite person? Her little thing on that Yuiko guy or Yuko guy.
I didn't get it. But still, she's up there for me. But her death was very sad. I was very upset by her death. Very upset.
But yeah, there's stronger people than her. Okay, so the list goes. Kakashi, Asuma, Kurenai, Itachi, Kisame. And then I just for bants, for vibes, I added capital.
[02:07:38] Speaker B: A special man indeed.
[02:07:41] Speaker A: There's a special place in hell for that man. That's for sure.
[02:07:46] Speaker B: How he fell from grace to grace to grace.
[02:07:49] Speaker A: You know what thing it did to him? What he actually did to him? I said, well deserved.
Well deserved. That man did not deserve happiness.
[02:08:01] Speaker B: Okay. Kakashi.
One of my, like my first, like male crushers. Crushers.
[02:08:08] Speaker A: Did he give you my surprise?
[02:08:10] Speaker B: No.
[02:08:11] Speaker A: What a shame.
[02:08:11] Speaker B: I think I just. It was. It's infatuation. Thank you.
[02:08:15] Speaker A: Okay.
[02:08:15] Speaker B: It was infatuation.
So just based off that, I mean, he's a smart reader.
Smart reader.
[02:08:23] Speaker A: See? Yeah. I said Kensha, spirit from young.
I said, said we know ourselves. Yeah.
And he's right.
[02:08:33] Speaker B: It's a green flag.
[02:08:35] Speaker A: It's like it don't matter. You know the thing with that girl.
Get it?
[02:08:39] Speaker B: Do you remember the dem trend? That part that came Up. And then the book girlies were like, I'm not like you other girls. I really smart. But you see this cover? It gives flowers. It gives floral.
[02:08:49] Speaker A: It's cutesy. It's dem.
[02:08:50] Speaker B: I'm not showing you sex on the front page. No, no, no. I am mindful. That's what the Kasha gives me. And mindful.
[02:09:00] Speaker A: He is the number one Jiraiya fangirl.
[02:09:02] Speaker B: He really is.
[02:09:05] Speaker A: Fan man.
Yeah.
Green light.
[02:09:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Asuma. Green light. Kuronei. You don't really do much, so green light for you too. You just. Just there. Itachi. Yellow green.
[02:09:18] Speaker A: Kisame.
[02:09:19] Speaker B: Hoshi Gaki. Love you.
He's an amber red.
Kabuto. Obviously. Deepest of red.
[02:09:30] Speaker A: See? The reddest.
I wholeheartedly the reddest of them all. The everything red.
What a man. Yeah. I wholeheartedly agree. Kabuto red. Itachi.
He's very complicated.
[02:09:48] Speaker B: I'll put him as yellow green. Because he did what he did. Because he had to do what he did. He had to do.
[02:09:59] Speaker A: He did a bad thing for the greater good.
And I feel like I judged someone recently on that.
Who? Akane.
[02:10:13] Speaker B: Okay.
[02:10:14] Speaker A: So I'm tempted to give him a green light, but he's definitely not a green light.
[02:10:19] Speaker B: So it's yellow green.
[02:10:20] Speaker A: Actually. No.
[02:10:22] Speaker B: A green Yellow.
[02:10:23] Speaker A: Green. Yellow. No, no, no, no. He's a yellow red. Sorry.
[02:10:28] Speaker B: So it's almost red.
[02:10:29] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:10:30] Speaker B: But more yellow.
[02:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah. He's more yellow than red.
[02:10:34] Speaker B: Okay.
[02:10:36] Speaker A: He did try to avoid all the things that he did in the. In the Akatsuki. But he's. I think he's. He himself even would acknowledge that he's. He's bathed in. I mean, he killed his entire clan.
[02:10:47] Speaker B: He.
[02:10:48] Speaker A: God damn.
[02:10:48] Speaker B: He was a teenage boy. He didn't know better.
[02:10:50] Speaker A: Go. Damn.
[02:10:54] Speaker B: Kissame.
[02:10:55] Speaker A: I don't give a.
I know you told me his backstory because I remember.
[02:11:01] Speaker B: It's not kissing. We talked about. It was Zamaza.
[02:11:03] Speaker A: Kazami we talked about. No, we're talking about Kizami because this was where we were. That's what I said. That's what I told you. I said. Are we talking about Kasame or Zabuza earlier? And you said Kisame.
[02:11:13] Speaker B: Let me.
Let me double check.
Kasame.
[02:11:22] Speaker A: Kisame is the guy whose sword eats people's chakra.
[02:11:25] Speaker B: You're right.
[02:11:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[02:11:26] Speaker B: You're right.
[02:11:27] Speaker A: But I think you meant Zabuza at the time. Yeah. I feel like inside. Inside you were thinking are.
[02:11:33] Speaker B: But no Kiss backstory is the one. I told you off. Sorry.
[02:11:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay.
[02:11:36] Speaker B: Yeah.
[02:11:36] Speaker A: But I know the backstory. Still red for you. Because again, he could have chosen. He could have chosen better. He's actually had no choice. I mean, I guess he did.
[02:11:45] Speaker B: What do you mean he could have chosen better?
Tell me.
[02:11:47] Speaker A: Naruto could have been a villain.
[02:11:49] Speaker B: No, no, no kissing me.
[02:11:50] Speaker A: You said then people. Oh, right.
[02:11:54] Speaker B: It's similar situation. He was. He was ordered.
[02:11:55] Speaker A: He was ordered, wasn't he? Yeah. He didn't really have a choice.
[02:11:59] Speaker B: It was a lie. That's when he moved away. But then he joined.
[02:12:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And then Madara himself met him and told him what his real intention was red because oh, he was going to live in a life of. With no lies. The red flag. It's actually. He said these Akatsuki people, they're bad. I'm going to infiltrate and be a spy.
In fact, he's getting greener.
[02:12:29] Speaker B: Okay, Mom. Okay.
You want to give it Tachi a green?
[02:12:36] Speaker A: Of course. I said he's getting greener because he was red.
[02:12:40] Speaker B: Yellow.
[02:12:40] Speaker A: It was yellow red before.
[02:12:42] Speaker B: Now it's just yellow.
[02:12:42] Speaker A: Now he's. He's proper amber.
[02:12:45] Speaker B: Well then, team Tachy for upgrade. Yeah.
[02:12:47] Speaker A: Kurinite.
I don't know. You were there for character development and that's it.
[02:12:55] Speaker B: She's just that baby. Yeah, she's just there. She doesn't do anything good or bad.
[02:12:59] Speaker A: I don't want to judge her because.
[02:13:01] Speaker B: She'S just so basic.
[02:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah, she ain't worth a red or green or anything.
[02:13:06] Speaker B: Asima.
[02:13:07] Speaker A: I'm actually such an asshole. Nah, she's a green light. She a good one. I mean, the baby could have gone gonzo, you know. You don't want to be a single mom in that.
I'm going to delete that out. I didn't say that.
I mean, look at that. You made a man. A man made you a single and then he went to God die on you.
I'm joking. I'm joking. Green flag. Green flag. She's a good woman. I mean, it's not like the guy left. He actually died.
[02:13:33] Speaker B: So.
[02:13:34] Speaker A: Yeah. It's such a shame though. Actually, are there any good love stories in this thing? Because Kakashi's girl, she dies from young. So he's been heartbroken for forever.
[02:13:42] Speaker B: Far we got Naruto and thingy. Hinata.
[02:13:46] Speaker A: No, no. I mean in this generation. In Naruto, not Shippuden.
[02:13:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, okay.
A good love story.
[02:13:57] Speaker A: We don't really know anything about the wives of like them, the Hokage, apart from Naruto's parents. And then they.
[02:14:03] Speaker B: They died they sacrificed themselves. Naruto.
[02:14:10] Speaker A: Who's next?
[02:14:12] Speaker B: That's awesome.
[02:14:12] Speaker A: Did you really rate Kakashi Sasori's parents? Tragic.
Kakashi's parents Tragic. I don't think we even know anything about his mum. But his dad. Tragic. We don't know anything about the third's wife.
Kakashi's parents were crazy.
[02:14:31] Speaker B: I mean you can say Kakashi's parents.
[02:14:34] Speaker A: Yeah, they were crazy.
[02:14:35] Speaker B: But they loved each other, I guess.
[02:14:38] Speaker A: But then they dies, both of them by their son.
And nothing comes to mind. Anything for you?
[02:14:49] Speaker B: No. I don't think I find like a happy love story. Because even like Gara's parents, his mother died in childbirth doing do we see or adults we see in the world.
[02:15:06] Speaker A: Oh, I guess Inochia chose well. No, because them daddies, they died Chojis.
[02:15:22] Speaker B: Do we meet Rockley's parents or do we hear them? I suppose not.
[02:15:25] Speaker A: I think it was an often.
[02:15:27] Speaker B: I don't know. Maybe.
[02:15:34] Speaker A: Maybe Tenten's parent. But we don't really know anything about them.
I'm going through the list now.
[02:15:41] Speaker B: Sakura's parents.
[02:15:44] Speaker A: Jeez, really.
Who's the mangaka on this thing? Really? The most useless woman. You make her parents. The ones that are happy.
Well adjust. Oh my God. That's why I don't like her because she has parents. I love her because she's well adjusted. She's normal.
She is the normal one amongst them.
Oh my God.
Are you telling me that my head ration.
It's because she's just so goddamn normal.
[02:16:16] Speaker B: That can't be it. I assure you she's like a normal teenage girl.
[02:16:20] Speaker A: She had a crush on a bad boy, you know, as I do. And like she's given typical SX girl.
[02:16:29] Speaker B: Okay, continue, continue.
[02:16:30] Speaker A: Yes.
[02:16:31] Speaker B: You. You want to end on that note?
[02:16:33] Speaker A: That's it.
No, I was joking. I'm joking.
Whose parents though? Who? Who's. Who's.
[02:16:41] Speaker B: That's only one I could think of.
[02:16:44] Speaker A: S often bad. Bad.
Oh, what's the guy with the dog? His parents are okay. I don't know if one of them dies. I'm not sure. I don't remember. I think something. Something happens to one of them in the war. I think Shino. Oh, I think Shino's parents are fine.
There you go.
[02:17:10] Speaker B: We got two female leads.
[02:17:11] Speaker A: The bugs people. She knows a guy. She knows the guy with the bugs.
[02:17:14] Speaker B: Oh yeah.
I didn't like the bugs.
[02:17:17] Speaker A: I really liked him.
[02:17:18] Speaker B: No, I liked him as a character. I just didn't like his power.
[02:17:21] Speaker A: I wasn't actually Creeped out by them. I don't like bugs, but it didn't bother me they were on the screen. I suppose I laugh at horror a lot.
[02:17:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm happy for you.
[02:17:32] Speaker A: They don't scare me. Oh, my God. It started when I went to the cinema to watch lady in the Black with Daniel Radcliffe and I went with my friend. That was the first ever horror that I like, watched. Not thrillers. Thrillers are great horror. I said, this is a joke to me. What in the what?
It was not scary one bit. I said, we laughed throughout that entire thing.
[02:17:54] Speaker B: You did.
[02:17:56] Speaker A: And ever since then, I just. I just think horror is just comical.
[02:18:00] Speaker B: Okay, good for you.
[02:18:03] Speaker A: I said, because you can see it from a mile away.
You could see it from a mile away. You're like, oh, okay, something's going to jump out now. Okay. It's chasing her. Okay. It's going to catch her and it's going to kill her.
What?
Anyway, what's next? And that is it.
[02:18:23] Speaker B: That is our anime.
[02:18:24] Speaker A: This is the end of Solomon Grundy.
[02:18:27] Speaker B: Ouch. You cut yourself.
[02:18:28] Speaker A: No, I cut myself. I just bit myself. Stuck myself. Solomon Grundy Born on Monday Christian on Tuesday Married on Wednesday Took Heal on Thursday Worse on Friday Died on Saturday Buried on Sunday.
[02:18:44] Speaker B: What a snack.
Quick snack.
[02:18:51] Speaker A: Okay, thank you very much for listening. If you have liked what we have had today, please like follow, subscribe all of them things. Thank you very much for watching and we'll see you on the next one.
[02:19:01] Speaker B: Bye.