Anime Vengeance and Psych Evaluations

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Welcome back, everyone. Welcome back to our Isekai. I am your gracious, overpowered host as usual, Chenna. [00:00:06] Speaker B: And I am Faith here for vibes. As always, more rested. I actually slept 11 hours according to my watch. [00:00:14] Speaker A: Today things are slightly different. So we're sticking obviously to the normal main grinlight ship's Skip. No red light, green light, this or that. There's no ship in this episode. However, in the main segment, we are doing betrayals instead of revenge. Sorry. We're doing revengers instead of betrayals. And we've done, I believe, the past three or four episodes. [00:00:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:37] Speaker A: But we're also. We're still sticking with the same format. With the same format. So it's just revengers and then side characters that stole the show. And then we've got. What's that last one? Diagnosis. Right. The ones that need help. And then obviously, like I said before, red light, green light, this or that, no shipping. Skip it. This episode. And so yeah, you can carry on with your first. [00:01:05] Speaker B: Okay. My first one is Revenge is Kiyoko from Skip Beat. It's not the typical revenge story where she's like on a hunt to do something. It's more like in the sense that she betters herself. Her revenge is bettering herself. She becomes one of the top actors in comparison to her ex boyfriend who's just a mediocre singer. He doesn't really like, act or anything. He's just. He's just mediocre. [00:01:25] Speaker A: He's not actually mediocre. Sho is actually good at what he does. [00:01:28] Speaker B: Okay. Sho is good at what he does. [00:01:30] Speaker A: Pissed a dick. [00:01:31] Speaker B: Look, Yoko proved him wrong. She said not only can I be in the entertainment industry, I can get the top man in the entertainment industry. [00:01:38] Speaker A: No, she said she can be the top. Not that she can get the job. [00:01:40] Speaker B: Okay, not. But she did get the top man. [00:01:42] Speaker A: I mean, that wasn't the intent. [00:01:43] Speaker B: That wasn't the intent. But she did. [00:01:44] Speaker A: She got there. [00:01:45] Speaker B: She did. Right? And he got jealous. [00:01:48] Speaker A: Of course he did. [00:01:49] Speaker B: The tick, tick. Ticking all boxes. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he ended up like having a whole fight with like another group in the book anyway. Not the book. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah. But yeah, Kyoko revenge story. It's not a typical revenge story, but it's fantastic in its own right. [00:02:03] Speaker A: And like she did it kind of for herself. Like during the process, she kind of has a whole self discovery moment. [00:02:09] Speaker B: It's very much growth. Cuz she was working part time and she was working part time for a man who didn't really love her. [00:02:14] Speaker A: Yeah. And she made good Friends along. Along the way and yeah, yeah, he ended up being good for her, all in all. And she kind of abandoned the revenge anyway and it kind of became a love story. But it's a cute love story. I don't. [00:02:28] Speaker B: I don't actually hate. [00:02:29] Speaker A: I'm still mad about it. [00:02:30] Speaker B: I don't hate the relationship, you know, I think it grew organically because she wasn't looking for love. [00:02:34] Speaker A: Oh yeah, yeah, of course. It's just. I think the writer has problems. [00:02:39] Speaker B: She's on hiatus. Maybe she's gonna stay in his. [00:02:40] Speaker A: After hearing this, obviously it's not easy. It's not easy to, I don't know, have your anime be picked up and then cancelled and then maybe not get as much support afterwards and stuff. [00:02:52] Speaker B: So that's true. [00:02:53] Speaker A: But it's a lovely story and I hope she carries on. [00:02:55] Speaker B: It's been a great story. [00:02:56] Speaker A: I hope more people are introduced to it and push for her to finally finish the story because it's. [00:03:02] Speaker B: I'm ready for her to come out with hiatus as well, to be honest, because I'm going to a point where I'm not even looking for updates anymore. I think I check on the updates on an annual basis. On an annual basis to see what's going on. What do you mean? You've only released like one chapter in three months. I might as well just, you know, wait until next year when you at least got four other chapters out. [00:03:20] Speaker A: Yes, it's hard out here. My first one is Kurapika from post production. Uchenna here. I ended up talking about Scar and not Perappika here. I apologize. That was just me mixing things together. Sorry in advance. Alchemist, obviously. Brotherhood. [00:03:42] Speaker B: Kurapika. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry. Hunter. Hunter. [00:03:45] Speaker B: I was confused. [00:03:45] Speaker A: I was like, my other one is Scar, but sorry, Kurapika from Hunter. Hunter. He obviously is on a revenge thing because his people were kind of massacred by the furor and he's angry about it. And his brother kind of was saving people. He was a genius. He was all there for peace and he was the hot hearted, hot headed one. And his brother was all very peaceful. And so he decides he'll take his brother's teachings or what his brothers kind of learned about alchemy and you know, yeah, just take revenge for his people. And then he gets there and he's doing all these things. He meets people. He finds out that the people that even live there, they're not even worth saving because they're all horrible and racist and assholes. And he's like, you know, what bet? I'm gonna kill all of y' all. And obviously he meets. He bumps into the Elric brothers and Hughes and what's the name? The fire guy. And then obviously he. He. He also goes through his own process where he kind of learns more. And he's like, okay, fine. It's not the people. It's actually mainly the father and the homunculi. Like one set of people and people, obviously, who are horrible people that like to experiment on people and kill people. The other fire guy. And so he learns about the true story, because the people who even fought during the war didn't quite know why they were even going there to fight in the first place and killing all these people because they were also being used, right? So he learned that, and then he kind of changes his ways, right? And at the end of it, he uses the alchemy that his brother learned to kind of rectify the situation, blah, blah, blah. So I feel like his revenge was one that kind of. It's very complex, right? It's very. You see it. Even till today, you can kind of relate to it because someone does something to you and you immediately kind of want to retaliate, right? And. But they're kind of complexities behind why that person so and so has done so and so to you. Right? They haven't done it to you. They've just done it because it's their job type thing. Especially now in today's. In today's political time, where it's like, what we're fighting against something that we don't quite understand. Right? [00:05:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:01] Speaker A: So, yeah, I believe his. His. I'm talking about Scar here. I'm so sorry. I started because it is kind of similar. I'm talking about Scar, not Karafika. And then I intentionally started. I was gonna talk about the Krafika, and then I ended up talking about Scott. I'm sorry, I'm talking about Scar from Full Meta. Full Meta Alchemist. He's. His story, obviously, is very heartfelt. That's why Kind of Full Meta Alchemist is one of my favorite animes of all time. I watch it almost every year over and over again because it's just. It's that good. It's that entertaining, and it's that, like, humbling, right? And it sticks with you. It sticks with you for a minute. So, yeah. Scar. Sorry, Scar, Not Kurapika. Scar. [00:06:44] Speaker B: I was very confused. I know, like, Kuropika is not a performance algorithmist, so I let you do your thing. I was like. [00:06:50] Speaker A: Because I've Got two, and they're quite somewhat similar. I guess it got all muddled up. Muddled up in my head. Apologies for those listening. [00:06:58] Speaker B: Okay, my next one is Kanek, again from Tokyo Ghoul. Obviously, we all know about his torture scene. And the red lilies. Is it really red lilies? Spider lilies. The spider lilies, which represent change in one's character in the anime thingy. Animiverse. So he gets tortured, and then he's like, na, na, na. Not my friends, not my girl, not anyone close to me will experience this. So he goes on this whole growth arc. He starts. Becomes cannibal. He joins the society that was torturing him just to get stronger so he can fight them and grow that way. And then after her, he's like, uno, reverse bitches. I'm here to kill you all. He didn't kill them all. But the whole point of like, it was his sake of like, okay, I've been tortured. I don't want anyone else that's close to me to experience this. So he becomes strong. He fights Jason, he joins. He loses his memory, but that's not it. And then he comes to himself. I'm like, okay, what's happened to me is tragic, but I'm just continuing the cycle here. So he ends the cycle by defeating both sides, Both the government side and both the Al Gore. Is it Algorithm's side or is the other side of Algorithm? [00:08:06] Speaker A: I've only watched the first two. [00:08:09] Speaker B: Okay. [00:08:10] Speaker A: And part of the last one. So anyways, I'm sorry. [00:08:14] Speaker B: Takes revenge, gets his girl pregnant. He's happy. [00:08:16] Speaker A: But the. Oh, you mean the group with the girl's brother? [00:08:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's that our gui. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Because I know they both start with A. So I wasn't sure which one's which. [00:08:27] Speaker A: It's one of them. But that group shot. [00:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he gets his revenge. He gets his friends saved. [00:08:32] Speaker A: But doesn't he follow them at some point? [00:08:33] Speaker B: Yeah, he joins them after the torture scene. He says he's leaving ants. What? He becomes a cannibal, so he joins them to get stronger. And after he loses his battle with the government side of things, he loses his memory. But then he regains his memory, defeats them, defeats our glory, then goes back to his best friend and his family. [00:08:50] Speaker A: The blonde boy, he's still alive. [00:08:54] Speaker B: I think he dies at one point, but, yes, he's still alive by season three when you see him. Wow. His best friend was. [00:09:04] Speaker A: I didn't. But I haven't finished it. Maybe I should. Right. So now I will be Talking about Kurapika from Hunter X Hunter, one of Gon's friends. So yes, just to clarify, because you're like fire person. [00:09:19] Speaker B: I was like, where are we going? This. I can't remember Kurapika with a fire person. [00:09:23] Speaker A: So Kurapika's whole clan got killed off. Got killed. And the reason why they got killed was because they have this special eyes, the Scarlet's eyes. It turns green when they have heightened emotions. Right. And why did they get killed off for their eyes? Because some random people who had money thought their eyes were pretty. And so a group who likes money or we're gathering money for some reason decided they were going to hunt them, kill them, sell them all, and sell their eyes. And obviously Kurapika was a fan, an adventure, having fun. He came back and everybody was dead. And so now he's on a mission to get those eyes back and to get revenge on the people who killed his entire clan. He was somewhat successful in terms of catching the man who is responsible, the leader of the group that's responsible. He kind of put a curse on him type thing. And then Kurapika is now hoping that the guy is dead, but he's not because they found a Nen exorcist to do all sorts of stuff. And that was because Hisokai decided he wants to fight. Anyway, that's by the by. Back to Kurapika. Anyway, according to Kurapika, he's got his revenge now and he's killed Hugovin, he's killed Shao Nark, he's killed the other one, a few of them at this point. And he's empty and he's kind of out of control at the minute. He's popping pills. Did you know? [00:11:00] Speaker B: Was it really. [00:11:01] Speaker A: He is. He's. And he's losing his mind because he. He's trying to. He's using it to extend how long he can use a specific power of his for. And he's. He's. He's losing it. He's really losing it. Obviously he's a Hunter and he's taking all these reckless, reckless jobs. The current arc. He is. I feel sorry for my boy. I feel so sorry for my boy. Oh, boy's going through it. But anyway, his revenge quite unquote is kind of ongoing because he's going to find out that he's. So called revenge did not revenge. The person who he wanted to suffer is not suffering and he's going to lose it even more. And this is just this. This is what happens Right. When you choose a specific life or you. You go by specific mantra, and things don't really go your way. You've got to learn from it. And we're gonna see how Kurabaka would. How he'll. He'll be with this. With this new. I just hope. I hope. I hope the story keeps going because it's so interesting. I think we know so much more now about this world. And like, we're just. We keep learning and we keep learning and it's just. You know what I want to say? How interesting. Like right now, one piece. Hunter. Hunter. They're doing this. I'm telling you, mate. When it comes to, like, how complex the world is, to be honest, I think Hunter X Hunter is like a bit higher. [00:12:23] Speaker B: Why is that? [00:12:25] Speaker A: Because we don't even know anything. So basically the world that we know is just this tiny little bit in the middle. [00:12:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:32] Speaker A: And there's. But there's more. But you can say that about any. [00:12:34] Speaker B: Storyline, though, because we focus on just one aspect of a story most of the time. [00:12:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I know that. But like, for example, when they don't. They don't tease us, right, with the outside world, like, in one piece. We're not teased about the real life. What's going on. They tell us what's going on. It's kind of like, by the by, but in Hunter X Hunter, they're kind of telling us that what. It's like we're going to eventually know what outside. [00:12:59] Speaker B: Okay. [00:12:59] Speaker A: So it's like we're being teased because they're going there right now. That's right. So the current arc, they're going there. They're going to the outside world. [00:13:07] Speaker B: And would you say it's similar to Attack on Titan, where it's alluded at the beginning, there's an outside world that they haven't been to yet, and then they eventually do go to the outside world. Outside of the map of the. What's it called? The circles. [00:13:17] Speaker A: Yes, but it's not a thing where, you know, it's made very clear. In Attack on Titan, don't go out there, okay, In a storm. You know what I mean? [00:13:28] Speaker B: The Titans are gonna get you. [00:13:29] Speaker A: The Titans are gonna get you out there. Don't make unnecessary journeys. But in this one, it's there for the Hunters. In fact, I believe majority of the people who live in that world don't even know about the outside world. [00:13:45] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:46] Speaker A: Does that. Does that make sense? Yeah, like they. I'm pretty sure they probably know that it's dangerous and that there's nothing out there because it's just water, water, water, water for like long, long, long, long, long time. So it's likely that the government is actually probably even hiding that from them. And the. The people that are going there are not part of the EU version of that world. Does that make sense? So the. It's like a world where they. There's royalty and they. They go on this journey. They embark on this journey so that this. It's the Succession War. And he has so many kids, and for them to. One of them to become king, they all have to kill each other, basically. [00:14:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:21] Speaker A: And then one of them will rule the land. Right. And they're going on this exploration and it's going to be so interesting. And we're finding out a lot of things about Kurapika. You is the hunter in charge of keeping a baby alive. And the baby is one of the kids in the Succession War. [00:14:34] Speaker B: Fantastic. With him. [00:14:35] Speaker A: I know. Yeah. And the spiders are on board the ship. [00:14:39] Speaker B: He's gonna kill them yet. [00:14:40] Speaker A: They've not met yet. Where I am. They haven't met yet. [00:14:44] Speaker B: Oh, he's a leader. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Exactly. He doesn't know that the spiders are there because to him, he's killed them. Their leader is done for and they've scattered. [00:14:53] Speaker B: Poor him. [00:14:54] Speaker A: Yeah. So, yeah. Moving on to side characters that stole the show. If you aren't aware, this is obviously an anime edition. [00:15:04] Speaker B: Yeah. We go through cycles between anime TV series and movies. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. [00:15:10] Speaker B: So my first one is Urza from Fairy Tale. So obviously Urza has these incredible powers. Better than Natsu, better than Gray. Is it? Yeah, Fullback Gray. But yeah, because they just are very typical. One has fire powers, one has water powers. But she can do everything. There's not one version of her. [00:15:27] Speaker A: I believe Gray is ice. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Ice, then. It's a formation of water. But nonetheless, Juvia is water. Okay. Juvia is fantastic. She's so cute. And her obsession was great. [00:15:37] Speaker A: Yeah, she's cute. [00:15:40] Speaker B: So Erza, she. Depending on what transformation she has, it would dictates her powers. Not only that, I feel like her background story that we get to know as we're going through the story, it's so interesting. Like, you wouldn't be able to tell. Like, this person who's so confident in herself used to be a slave at one point. From the way she carries herself, her trauma wouldn't be the first thing that you pick out from her. You'd be like, she's a strong, confident woman who goes for what she wants. And that's It. And I was like. To begin with, I was like, fantastic for her. And then we learn about her background story and we're like, Nazi. You're just a baby. Like what, like what have you experienced? You're just crying to a dragon and the dragon took care of you. Then he left, abandoned you. Okay, okay. You had abandoned issues. [00:16:20] Speaker A: I had to leave. [00:16:23] Speaker B: Okay. But he's not Erzar fair. [00:16:26] Speaker A: But trauma is trauma. Trauma is not trauma Olympics here. [00:16:30] Speaker B: It's not trauma Olympics. I'm just saying, like from what we learned about Urza through the story, in comparison to some of the other characters, I think I was really touched by how she carries herself and how the character was developed in the storyline of Varys. Fairytale. [00:16:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. And I believe that's probably why people kind of relate to her a lot more and why her? She's. She's one of the most memorable characters. [00:16:50] Speaker B: Well recognized as well. Yeah, yeah. [00:16:52] Speaker A: Of fairy tale. [00:16:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:16:55] Speaker A: I have paranoia. I'm just going to check that we are recording. Just. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Okay. [00:17:01] Speaker A: Okay, back to me, my person, my first person that stole the show. Who is my first person? That show? [00:17:10] Speaker B: Revy. [00:17:10] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm gonna do it in order. Okay. Revy now. Revy. Revy. Revy. My angry ladened, gun toting, gun slinging, chain smoking, trauma laced, drama queen. She's just fantastic, isn't she? I mean, quick talking, instant throwing. She's everything. The way she interacts, interacts with the main character, the way she interacts with everyone else on the team outside the team. She shows certain vulnerable moments. Her movements, her quick wittedness, it's just, it's captive. It's very captivating. You see it, you're like, oh, she's cool, she's badass, you know, and she draws you in because you're like, oh, there's some drama there. Like you just wanna. Yeah. But you're like, she. She's also very. She's a very caring character as well. Right. You can. You can kind of relate to a lot of the things that she's been. She's kind of been through. And you, you can feel it as like, as someone who's watching why she's the way she is. And it's. I don't think it's. They don't do it in a subtle way anyway. They kind of throw it in your face why she is the way she is. And there's no expl. Like they're not explaining it. They're not apologizing for the way she is. That's just Who Revi is. And that character, that loudmouth Ness. That gun. Shoot. You shoot first, you explain later behavior. It's just who she is. And it captivates you, Holds you. If you're a child, you're still a threat. She don't give a fuck, you know? [00:18:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:35] Speaker A: If you're a maid, she's. She would know. Like, she just feels like something's off about you. And it's that thing about her character that just. It holds you. Holds you in. He held me in because kind of. I forget the other guy's name. The black guy. Like, his character, right? He's just chill. That's it. Like, he stands out. He really does. And in moments where he should be doing stuff, he is doing stuff. But he's just pretty chill. Right? But Revy is the one who. She takes in this guy that's just kind of a loser and doesn't really know what to do with himself, and she quite literally takes him in. But you wouldn't expect. Expect someone who seems to not care about human life to take a guy who's relatively useless in. But she's all valuing him. And she's kind. She's. And. Yeah. And so that's why I think she. She kind of stole the show because she's. She's badass. For a lack of better word, she's badass. [00:19:23] Speaker B: Okay, my next one is Karma for an assassination classroom. So Karma, I would like to say, is like the third main character. So we got the actual teacher, then we got Nezuko, and then we have Karma. I think Karma stands out to me because he helps both these two people grow. So he helps Nezuko become more confident in who he is. I think Karma came in around episode three. He got rejected from his first class, and he got dropped down. And then he's there, and he's like, oh, my goodness, I'm in the class of delinquents. But he himself is a delinquent. When you hear about Carmen's backstory and how he's traumatized his teachers, then you understand why he got dropped, like, from level B to level C. I don't know what level they are, but classroom, class. He dropped class groups anyway. And so he helps Natuuro go through this growth period. He helps the teacher. I forgot his name. In recognizing that Nezuko's talent, because before, Hannesuko was very quiet. He didn't really show himself until this happened. And then he was like, you can do this. You actually have a skill to be an assassin. Problematic that these are kids who are trying to be assassin. But he was like, you can do this and sometimes you don't need a side character that's going to take the show, but one that actually adds to the story. And I think he does add quite a lot to the story. [00:20:39] Speaker A: Okay, that's good. My next is Greed from Full Metal Alchemist Greed, AKA Lin. He's funny. He's like the one, I think, obviously, because he's a greedy guy. Right. So it's just. Yeah, it's part of his character for him to just look for anything that's to his best interest. And if that's gallivanting and that's what he shot, what he shall do, if that's breaking out of the seven deadly other deadly sins and not listening to the father, that's what he shall do. And that is what he did. And I feel like he's him even at the end, kind of helping the Elric brothers kind of the way the whole story even played out in the first place. Because he was just. Just doing his thing really. When all the bad stuff happened, he went off to the east, I want to say. And obviously he came back with the girl and the panda and all that stuff. And he. He helped and he gave them pivotal information about Father. And then he went off kind of up. I was like, well, this is your stuff now. Bye. So yeah, although he doesn't steal the show, but I think he leaves you. He just. [00:22:04] Speaker B: He adds to it. [00:22:05] Speaker A: He adds to it. [00:22:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Sometimes the character doesn't have to do much. [00:22:08] Speaker A: They don't have to be a revie. [00:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:10] Speaker A: But sometimes they just. They sprinkle a little something here and there. And his was comic relief mostly. Even when he got serious, I still got his ass kicked. But still he was very. It was very interesting and very funny. It was fun, fun, fun, fun character. [00:22:25] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. Next on my list is Elle from Death Note. El is. He's just a boy, you know, he's just a boy who likes to investigate things. So much investigation that the police task force asking for help to catch who Light who God was the one who was killing Kira. [00:22:45] Speaker A: You know what was so funny? I remember when I first watched it. So I didn't watch the anime. I watched the Japanese live action of it first. [00:22:55] Speaker B: Really and truly? [00:22:56] Speaker A: Yes, in Nigeria. [00:22:58] Speaker B: I'm surprised you went to the anime then, because the live action was not great, in my opinion. [00:23:02] Speaker A: Oh. So at this point I did not know it was an anime. I was very young and I remember being confused about Who Light and Elle was. And I was like, what is going on? My little bro couldn't hack my brain. Was like. And then they introduced the girl and I'm like, who is this Misa? Yeah, but. And obviously with the way Elle was and with the way he hunched and everything, I was just like, what am I? What? As a child, I was so confused. I didn't know he's just a boy. Obviously I had no business watching that, as I know business. I don't think I was even 8 yet. Because this was. This was before 2006 for sure. And I was like 10 then. So this is way, way before that. I had no business watching it. No business. [00:23:53] Speaker B: See, I watched the anime and so Elle is very awkward when we. When we see him. But as I said, he's so smart and so intelligent. The police task force help me catch Kira. Asked him to help catch Kira. And I believe from the get go he knew Light was Kira. But he was having so much fun. He said, nothing has stimulated me the way you are stimulating me. Like, I like this cat and mouse game. You know I'm onto you. And I know you know I'm onto you, but this is fun. [00:24:17] Speaker A: But like, I think because he's so calculated. Right. And everything has to make real sense. Real life sense. He was so. He always second guessed. It was like, surely not. [00:24:27] Speaker B: I don't think he second guessed himself, to be honest. [00:24:30] Speaker A: I believe that he did because it didn't make sense. Like he was like, where was. He's very. One plus one equals two. One plus one wasn't equal in two. Because what Light would do was he would write the exact time and everything and place and everything and everything when it would happen. And he would be with him. Light would be with L as that person's dying. [00:24:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:52] Speaker A: So he had an alibi of sorts. So to lie, it did not make sense. But he knew that something was wrong with that boy. He just didn't know what. [00:25:02] Speaker B: Sorry, that's gay. But yeah, I think Elle just had fun. To be honest, he was very awkward to begin with. But then you get to know him, you're like, you just avoid us having fun playing like cops and robbers. [00:25:13] Speaker A: That's literally deadass. Cops and robbers. [00:25:17] Speaker B: Yeah. And I feel like because of who he was, I think he was the best. Is it antagonist? [00:25:24] Speaker A: Oh, like hero. [00:25:25] Speaker B: He's not hero. He was the best side character for. For Lights. Like he added to the cat. [00:25:30] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Protagonist. [00:25:33] Speaker B: Protagonist. [00:25:34] Speaker A: Okay, antagonist. Bad guy. Protagonist. Good guy. [00:25:37] Speaker B: Who's a good protagonist for Kira? In regards to the storyline. [00:25:40] Speaker A: Let me. Let me google. [00:25:42] Speaker B: Well, that's why I was questioning before I. We go live and I say. And someone like. No, no, no. He was not a protagonist. He was an xyz. Ah, antagonist. I was almost correct. That says antagonist is a character that forces. That opposes the attack protagonist and creates conflict. So because Light is the main character, he'll be the protagonist. Right. He's not either good or bad, but we find out later he is just bad. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Right? Yes. And Light is the antagonist who is antagonist. [00:26:13] Speaker B: Yeah. So. Ls antagonist. So. Yes. [00:26:15] Speaker A: So you were right. [00:26:15] Speaker B: L is a great antagonist in this storyline. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Yes. [00:26:18] Speaker B: Now that I know youth Gray would. [00:26:21] Speaker A: See, I fell into the whole one's good one's bad thing. Yikes. No, no, no. Carry on. [00:26:26] Speaker B: Now I'm done. [00:26:26] Speaker A: Oh, okay. So my next one is Nezuko from Demon Slayer. She doesn't really do much. She. [00:26:34] Speaker B: She's great. [00:26:37] Speaker A: Calm down. She's on my list of people who stole the show. Calm down. Calm. [00:26:42] Speaker B: You may continue. [00:26:44] Speaker A: I was going to continue my dream. Okay, so this girl. Don't speak. Brada. Yes. She doesn't say anything. She mainly growls and like, nods her head and acts all cute. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:57] Speaker A: But still, she has so many people's hearts. Why? Because of her actions. Because of her powers and because of hearts and the relationship between her and her brother. [00:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:11] Speaker A: And it is insane how a character that doesn't say anything. Right. Evokes such strong emotions in people. It's the moment where she stands, she comes out. Right. And she. From the bag. The first time she comes out and she defends her brother. [00:27:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:27:30] Speaker A: Fantastic. Cinematic gold. Last minute hero behavior. I mean, she has outstanding moments. And it's also that moment where we realize she can also stand in the sun. My God. [00:27:49] Speaker B: She's op. [00:27:51] Speaker A: Quite literally. She's fantastic. And she's cute. [00:27:57] Speaker B: She's adorable. [00:27:58] Speaker A: Especially when she gets. She shrinks back into her little. [00:28:01] Speaker B: And she's also balanced in a demon form. [00:28:02] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Very much so. [00:28:04] Speaker B: Like, don't play with her. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Nah, nah. Don't play with her. Don't play with Nezuko at all. [00:28:08] Speaker B: And don't upset her brother. [00:28:10] Speaker A: Yes. And don't upset her brother. And she's just so cute. And the one that has a crush on her is just so adorable. Watching all that interaction and. Yeah, I just. I think she. She's a great character. She steals. She. She steals the show from her brother to defend her brother. Her relationship with her brother is kind of the driving force of the story. Obviously. And yeah, she's got heart. She's, she's, she's a great character in my opinion. K. And every time she's on screen it's all about her from that point on. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Is it really? [00:28:38] Speaker A: Yeah. When she's fighting, she's fighting. [00:28:41] Speaker B: Okay. [00:28:41] Speaker A: Like it's mainly, it's mainly her just killing it when she's fighting. [00:28:45] Speaker B: Okay. Last for me is Celsi, the headless rider from Durarara. So Seltie, she's a, she's a sassy little. But she's in love with a scientist. [00:28:56] Speaker A: She's that girl. [00:28:57] Speaker B: She's in love with the scientist. She's such a nerd. She is. And then when we first see Celtie, I think we just see her body. We don't see her head yet. Because Isaiah has her head. Why Isaiah has a head, I do not know. He's just there for bands. Honestly and truly, Isaiah is there for bands. In fact, I would even put Isaiah and Celti in the same category as side characters. Stole this show because with Comic Relief they both do it for me. They're both very smart, they're both very calculated. I mean Asia does not have like a love story. But that's because he's very like, he's very independent, he's very self assured. [00:29:29] Speaker A: I actually thought she was the main character, you know. [00:29:31] Speaker B: Well, because we see her first. [00:29:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And like you mainly see her as well. So like I thought at the start, start though obviously I, I, I learned better. [00:29:42] Speaker B: You can say the same about Isaiah though, because Isaiah takes up. Everyone's talking about Isaiah. Everyone is talking about Isaiah, good or bad. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Everyone's talking about. [00:29:49] Speaker B: Everyone's talking about getting Celtie's head because what, what is inset? What does Celta know that everyone's trying to get out from her? Because goodness me, why does everyone want her head? I actually haven't read a mango, so. [00:29:59] Speaker A: I don't know what's happened. Me either. Maybe I should, but. Yeah, should I? [00:30:04] Speaker B: I'll consider it. But Isaiah and Celtie, they both not. They don't only just add to the storyline. I feel like they are the storyline to begin with until we get to know like the whole story. But they are like the Vora story stems from both of them. I feel like like without Isaiah playing everyone like a chess piece, without Celti losing her head and everyone trying to capture her head, there isn't much. And her looking for her own head as well. Yeah. They are just both great characters in their own right. I feel like I'd even appreciate having a standalone anime. Let's focus on either one of those two characters. [00:30:39] Speaker A: Fair play. My next is Shoto Todoroki, now from My Hero Academia. He starts off this rich, seemingly rich, asshole, legacy twat. And then obviously you find out his dad, his mom. The whole story is so sad. And then he grows, and then, like, he's actually not so bad. And he takes in what's his face. What's his face? [00:31:08] Speaker B: Midori. [00:31:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Is it Deku? That's. It kind of takes him as a friend of sorts. And like, he becomes not so bad when you learn the stuff. And then the stuff about his brother. My God, that family. Talk about traumatic family trauma. But yeah, he's. He starts off with, you know, a guy with daddy issues. He's got ice, he's got fire. I'm never gonna use the fireside. And obviously he does. And endeavor's all proud of him. And anyway, yeah, he ends up being a good friend to the main guy, Sudaku. And it's. It's all nice and he's healed and he. You like him and he grows on you as a character. [00:31:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:45] Speaker A: Yeah. That's the end of that segment. We will now be moving on to nhs. Nhs, Those that needed intervention. [00:31:54] Speaker B: So mine is going to be based on Steins Gate. So I'm going to do the four main characters of Steins Gate. So we're gonna see. Thank you. Okabe, Karisu, Mayuri, and Itaru, also known as Daru. So those are what I'm gonna go with. [00:32:08] Speaker A: So we're gonna do all of yours, and then I'll do all of mine. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Okay. [00:32:11] Speaker A: So we just kind of. [00:32:12] Speaker B: My first one is Okabe. So Okabe is PTSD and survivor's guilt. So ptsd, he has to see the girl of his life die over and over again. And I can't fathom that because to the psyche, that's a breakdown each and every time. That's like. Like he doesn't even get a period to, like, to mourn because once he's experienced it, he goes back into it. Like, I have to fix it. I have to fix it. I have to fix it. And then he has to see her every day at the same time. So not only is he experiencing her death on repeat, he's seen her on repeat straight after he's witnessed her death. And he doesn't have a period of grief. He just goes on and goes on and goes on this cycle. And each time the cycle happens, as I say, he has survivor's guilt because he's trying his best to save his friend and save the girl that he loves. But all his actions are happening until you reach the last episode when it's just her and him. And she's like, you need to stop. Like, we've been through this, me and you. I've experienced my own death. And you're sorry. Similar death. Because we later find out that she remembers each time she gets that she has flashbacks or she has dreams of her death, and she's like, we're going through this cycle, like, we're trying our best. I'm trying to do something different, you're trying to do something different. But we both come to the same conclusion. I die and our friends die, and we both go back in the cycle. You just have to let me go. And he doesn't want to accept it. He was like, you've been my girl. Like, we've grown up together. I've been in love with you. He's like, you're my girl. How can I give up on you? Even if I have to see you die a thousand times. At least that's a thousand times of me trying to save you. And it just breaks your heart. So Mayuri was right. He does need to give up on trying to save her and his friends so he can properly grieve and end the cycle. Because the cycle is the actual problem that's caused his ptsd. That and the death. But yeah, recommendations? Stop experimenting. Yeah, Move cities so you're less triggered. I'd say find new friends. [00:34:06] Speaker A: You can do it. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Yeah, start again. Go back to uni because you love education, you love studying. Just don't experiment. Just do the research side of things. Without. Without experiments. I don't know how you can do that. Okay, go back to uni. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Experiment on other things. [00:34:20] Speaker B: You know, be a gardener. Okay. Relax your mind. Take the stress away from you. Do something non experimental. [00:34:27] Speaker A: Just leave time alone. [00:34:28] Speaker B: Yeah, Let it go. Did you hear that? [00:34:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it's outside. [00:34:33] Speaker B: But yeah. Okabe and his PTSD from trying to save Mayuri. Following on to that next one is Mayuri herself. So as we said, she has flashbacks, she has memories of her death. And to begin with, I just thought she was just a quiet girl. And then I saw the sadness in her eyes. And then when I find out this. That she remembers things, I was like, the sadness in your highs. Makes sense. You're depressed because you're seeing the Greek, the grief of the person you love as well. [00:35:03] Speaker A: And especially you leave it all over. [00:35:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:06] Speaker A: Again. [00:35:07] Speaker B: So Simply, she's depressed and she has PTSD because she's trying her best to be cheerful. She's trying her best to show her support to her friends and to Okabe. But at the same time, because she is depressed, she can't always express herself properly until it came to the final straw when she's like, I'm done. I don't want to do something more with you. We've tried our best. Let's just stop. So for Mayuri, I think for her, I think she should just walk away. Walk away from Okabe and walk away from your friends. I know it's gonna be hard because you've also wanted to save them with Okabe. But I feel like if she walks away, maybe something different might have happened. I'm not saying something will happen differently, but maybe she can find happiness in a short time that she has somewhere else. Maybe she might find new friends, new hobbies, but in that period before she has to die, at least you have happiness. Yeah. [00:36:00] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:02] Speaker B: And then for Mayuri, we have Karisu. Karisu is such a cute little girl. She's such a. Let me see her. I think she beats up Okabe because they were like. They were a university center. I think she was presenting something we wanted to see a presentation. And then she ends up beating her. She's like, stop this. My research is not a game. Like, she was like, yeah, I know your research is not a game. So we're in the same boat, and they start working together. It's all well and good. So Kurisu suffers from trauma, so we learn about her background story. We learn about how she's into time travel and how she just trying to escape her past. And I feel like from this, I feel like. I just feel like everyone in this series should just stop experimenting with time. I think time is their problem in China. [00:36:48] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't disagree, because. [00:36:50] Speaker B: What do you mean? Stop this, all of you. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Oh, my God. It's actually crazy. [00:36:59] Speaker B: No, they all need to stop. [00:37:01] Speaker A: The answer was just so. But I guess not that much because they just didn't want to let go. So fair play to them. And obviously they probably feel guilty that they did it in the first place, if that makes sense. [00:37:17] Speaker B: But from what I know, I don't think Kurisu and Itaru remember the cycles. [00:37:22] Speaker A: Oh. [00:37:23] Speaker B: It's only Okabe and Mayuri who remembers what's been happening. [00:37:27] Speaker A: Oh. And obviously he can't let go, so he tries to keep doing it and doing it. [00:37:33] Speaker B: And Mayuri's there because she loves him. And she wants to support him. And she also wants to, if possible, stop her own death. [00:37:39] Speaker A: So if he had stopped it probably all would just. [00:37:41] Speaker B: Everything would just float on. So the problem here is one man. It's always this, isn't it? [00:37:50] Speaker A: It's always the man's. Sometimes get the ring. [00:37:54] Speaker B: It's like. And his assistant, he was also a man. I mean, problematic. [00:38:01] Speaker A: That person that said men should start in jail. Pretty sure you're onto something. Was it me? [00:38:07] Speaker B: We had a conversation. You said, this is my opinion phase. I said, wow, what a take on life. [00:38:11] Speaker A: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That doesn't sound like an original thought. I don't think I said that. I think the other person said that. I think our other friend said that, not me. Are you sure? [00:38:29] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure I had this conversation with you in the car at one point. [00:38:36] Speaker A: I don't think so. [00:38:38] Speaker B: You say the wildest thing. Honestly. [00:38:40] Speaker A: No, it doesn't sound like an original thought. I promise one of Chani has been honest. [00:38:49] Speaker B: She says the wildest thing sometimes in her honesty. I'm just happy to accept that that's her. Are you crying? Really, Andrea? [00:38:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm laughing, I'm laughing, but I've got an eyeliner. Literally only here, so this can't drop. I think it's waterproof, actually. [00:39:02] Speaker B: Fantastic. [00:39:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Sorry. Excuse me. [00:39:04] Speaker B: So last and finally, it Haru. So he has low self esteem and he's really into his otaku lifestyle. He's very like secluded. If it wasn't for Okabe and it all wasn't for his friends, I think he'll just be in his own little room playing games, not doing much. But he. He finds friendship, he finds a hobby, and he does great. So I think. I think out of everyone, he's the least problematic of them. [00:39:30] Speaker A: They should have left him as a nick. Oh, I didn't say that he's not. [00:39:34] Speaker B: That he's the least problematic. It's not until he meets Okabe that his life turns upside down. So all I'm saying is from the get go, the problem was time travel. If they hadn't started experimenting, maybe all this ptsd, all this trauma, all this survivor's guilt, all this lower self esteem would have been there. [00:39:55] Speaker A: I mean, he would have still had low self esteem. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Okay, yes, he would still have low self esteem, but at least he will be traumatized. [00:40:00] Speaker A: Less traumatized. [00:40:01] Speaker B: Less traumatized. Fine, fine, fine. [00:40:03] Speaker A: You know, what's the. The thing? Oh, you know, the thing with time and not mess up with time. And time getting you in rigor morty. [00:40:10] Speaker B: Coming back to be literally just. Yeah, Honestly, they need to put a force on the experiment. [00:40:18] Speaker A: Yes. So for my people, I don't follow like a specific thing. Manta is kind of everywhere. So I'll go with Hisoka, Shotaka, Shou Makishima and Nagato. And I have one fun one. Deidara. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Deidara? [00:40:38] Speaker A: Yeah. From Narita. [00:40:39] Speaker B: I know, but all he does is make sculptures. [00:40:41] Speaker A: Exactly. No, he bombs stuff. What do you mean? All he does is make sculptures. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Sculptors. [00:40:46] Speaker A: And then he goes, art is something. What does it say? Art. [00:40:51] Speaker B: It is explosive. Art is explosive. All he does is make sculptures. Little bird sculptures. [00:40:57] Speaker A: And you don't think he needs help? [00:40:59] Speaker B: No, I think it's perfect. I love Deidara. He's funny. [00:41:02] Speaker A: Okay, so my first one, Hizoka. Psychosexual personality disorder. Predatory behavior. Intervention needed. Mental health. He needs to be locked into. In a mental health institution. It's not quirky to like little boys. I want to fight them and wait for them to ripen. [00:41:20] Speaker B: That's weird behavior. [00:41:21] Speaker A: Yes. Well, he's not actually done anything. All he does is fight them. [00:41:25] Speaker B: Fine. [00:41:25] Speaker A: And he gets sexual pleasure from fighting them. And when they. When they reach their peak, Will you. [00:41:30] Speaker B: Not put that on sex offenders? [00:41:31] Speaker A: Then it's predatory behavior. [00:41:33] Speaker B: It's almost grooming. [00:41:34] Speaker A: It's predator. He. They want to fight. [00:41:37] Speaker B: He. [00:41:38] Speaker A: He. I am not a Hisoku apologist. [00:41:41] Speaker B: However, you know this line, however, why I'm back. You're on the grave. [00:41:45] Speaker A: However. Yeah, I am on the grave. However, these two particular boys, they want to fight. They wanted to get to the heaven's gate. And if anything, Hisoka saved their life because if they hadn't learned and grown and they'd gone into the heavens thingy, they would have died. So technically, he saved their lives because. [00:42:03] Speaker B: He likes to watch them because he. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Likes to watch them grow into. He wants them to be adults. He wants to watch them grow into their full potential and then fight them. He doesn't want to fuck them. Let's get that straight. I don't think he has any sexual, like, actual. The satisfaction I believe that he gets from it is the fighting. Because it's the same behavior he has with Chrollo. It's got nothing to do with him wanting to fuck Chrollo. He doesn't want to fuck Chrollo. He wants to fight the guy. And he gets satisfaction from that. And he eventually did fight. The guy ends up dead and then brings himself right back because he kind of thought, there's no way he was gonna win and he had this thing in place. And I was watching something from one of my favorite youtuber who talks about Hunter X Hunter. He's also, he also has a thing with. He does another one for one piece. His one piece one is called Grand Line something something and his YouTube one, the one I think is called like. Oh, I forget. Anyway, he's really good. He pointed out something about hisokar. Recently he did a video and he was like, if anything, the only kind of person that Isoka has like a sexual thing with is the niddle lady. I forget her name. [00:43:22] Speaker B: Really and truly. [00:43:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Because remember when they were in York New and she was sewing him up, they had a little moment there. That's the only real sexual moment that I've seen in Hunter X Hunter that Hisoka has had. He was kind of like, what? Are you sure you don't want to stay the night? That thing that was, that was the opinion that I got from them. That was the only interaction. Everything else was. Has been very theore, not very dramatized. Right. And I feel like that's on the. That's on the people who do the animation and the writers, in my opinion. [00:43:57] Speaker B: I haven't read the manga, so I don't know. [00:43:59] Speaker A: So yeah, that, that I feel is just like for dramatics. [00:44:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:44:04] Speaker A: And I feel like they're making it sexual. Maybe. Maybe who you need to be focusing on is the animators that do that nonsense thing that they've done with his second. Because fair enough, he gets satisfaction. I don't think it's. Well, it could be sexual, but I don't think he's fapping up to be at night. I don't think so. I just think he likes the idea that he will eventually fight these kids. And it's the fight that moves him, I believe. But anyway, he needs help. They need to knock that one away because why do you want to be fighting people up and down? Are you right? Like, what's wrong with you? What happened to you as a child? Rubbish. Next, Shotaka, take the keys and throw it away. Like lock him up. Take the keys, throw away. Because someone should have called child services in the first place when that man lost his wife and asked him how, how, how, how did the woman, like, let's investigate that first. And then take the girl away from him. But then there were technically no outward sign. But he was losing his mind because he did actually have help. There was, quite literally, because the more I thought about it, there was. It was just one single moment. It's always in the darkest, darkest moments that no one ever sees where he will be looking at that girl and that dog and what he's planning on doing. You could have never in a million years, I've thought, because he was a loving father, he had financial resources. There was nothing. He just got to a point where the research was just more important. And he did what he did. So he's a psychopath, he's a narcissist. Because he hid those tendencies and those. Those behaviors very, very, very, very well. And he likes to play God. So at the point where he done what he done, my man should go to prison and forget him. And that's there. Don't use him eventually, because his knowledge is forget he ever existed. And that's what I've got with that. Moving on to Shogo Makishima. Shogo from Psychopath Psychopaths. He has this problem where I don't like people who do these in real life either. Obviously he's a sociopath. He knows that for himself. But he has this philosophical ideas in his head, very grand that he would want to do. He has these. Something. Something of grandeur. I don't know what the something is, but he has this. These ideas that just. And he would just be speaking Nietzsche as if. No, Nietzsche wasn't some weird. Weirdo who couldn't have a wife. You know what I mean? Like my guy was a loser and he was out here quoting the guy like the guy was some great philosopher. You're also a loser because you're all upset that you're not like the rest of the people. And you want the little. The little calculator to pick you out, little Mona, have a bit. Have another moan. Well, because it wouldn't recognize you. You. Because you decide, oh, I'm gonna start doing bad things. You didn't think, oh, let me be. Let me be good. Instead. Let me just. Let me go on some. Anyway, he needed drugs to be pumped into him. [00:47:31] Speaker B: How's that your solution? Until. [00:47:33] Speaker A: Until I'm joking. Until the little calculator recognized him. What's the name of that thing? Denominator? Yeah, was that. I forget what it's called. But anyway, the little gun thing. Definitely high security psychiatric treatment. But I feel like at the same time, you know, that guy, the psychiatrist that. The guy that I like, what's his name was seen and the girl also started seeing as well. The psychiatrist. [00:48:04] Speaker B: Can't remember. [00:48:04] Speaker A: Anyway, that psychiatrist. I feel like if you've seen psychopaths, you know, he should have seen that one Instead of whatever it was that he was doing out there. Because that one maybe would have set him straight. Hopefully he eventually becomes a latent criminal. Yeah, the psychiatrist himself. But he reads too much psychology. That's Makishima himself. And he uses that as a justification to commit all these atrocities and to do all these horrible things. And it's just. It's insane. So again, him. To lock him up, take his keys and his privilege and everything away. And like, fair enough. Your little computer can't recognize him. But he can recognize his face. No, you don't have facial recognition like you. Because it's able to pick out that someone's there. It just says that. That they don't have this really thing. But you can prick out that someone is there. So therefore recognize his face, puts a specific thing in place for this specific man. And tell the gun to shoot, for goodness sake. That's what they had to do. That's what they. That's all they have they had in the system. Because someone created the system. They can override it. You can see what's happening and record it. I lie and override and tell it to shoot. That. That's. That's. It should be clear. Clear cut. Anyway, that's just me. And my next one is Pain Nagato. My guy. [00:49:26] Speaker B: He's been through a lot though. [00:49:28] Speaker A: I don't mean you should kill your mentor. I still hold that against you because that's what you did. To be honest, I should have killed Jerry Peggan. That's by the way. That's the whole narrator just followed the abandonment on its own, you know. But anyway, that's. That's by the by. Guy has ptsd. Yeah. Dissociative behavior because sometimes he doesn't even recognize his friends from his foal. And he has this whole. My way or the highway. Your moral absolutism. Excuse me. That I feel like that. That's the issue with villains that we tend to see. It's like their way or no other way. And it's also internalized trauma that makes them radicalized. Like it radicalizes them to the point where it then becomes their way or no other way. Right. Because of all the things and all the hardship that happened to Nagato. He believed his way was the right way. The way he. But it just turns out he was being manipulated anyway. Oops. Idiot. For this one. To be honest, I don't know what they could have done because they were all orphans and their friend died. And. What was Yahiko? Yeah, yeah. The one with the orange hair. Anyway, he dies and he kind of just loses his mind, right, Nagato? And he starts off on this journey, and because of the type of power he has and the amount of chakra that he has, they kind of fall somehow into Akatsuki and they end up being manipulated. And my goodness. And obviously the death of his friends, especially the paper lady as well. I don't even think he finds out that she was even dead, to be honest. Anyway, him being radicalized, right, to the point that. Or him being very emotionally unstable to the point that he becomes radicalized by Obito and Madara, I think is what was very sad there. And unfortunately, there wasn't really much Jiraiya could do, I guess. But definitely some. Some weird intervention there. And a reminder that, you know, I guess Naruto kind of did that, didn't he? Naruto likes his top no Jutsu very much. Because Narita didn't necessarily defeat. Defeat him. Naruto just kind of disarmed him with his. His ideals and I guess radicalized him as well. [00:51:52] Speaker B: For the better. [00:51:53] Speaker A: For the better, of course. Yeah, it kind of talked him down. And so that obviously, global peace, of course, is kind of what he wanted. But global peace by committing such atrocities like. My goodness. What? What? Crazy. I could never do that. No way. It's not just my way. It's just my way. To be honest. I get it. I. I do get it. But at some point, I feel like regardless of which side you go on, left or right, there gets to a point where it's a bit too far and you need to come inside a little bit. I'm a centrist, but I feel like there's a. It's not exactly good to be in the center, because people are like, you need to choose. But look at the people in the left and look at the people on the right. You're all losing your mind. Are you all right? No, quite literally, that is it. [00:52:48] Speaker B: That's a different conversation. [00:52:49] Speaker A: Anyway, we can't let anarchy reign. Or can we? On to the next, My last and final Deidara from Naruto. [00:53:02] Speaker B: As I said, Deidre is just fun. [00:53:03] Speaker A: Our little Pyro. [00:53:06] Speaker B: He'S an artist. [00:53:08] Speaker A: His artistic expression of explosion is fantastical. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:53:13] Speaker A: And he needs to be put into a ward where there's no art, there's no fire. Everything is just boring. Because I promise you, if this man draws anything, he would turn it into an explosion somehow. [00:53:23] Speaker B: He'll be so bored, though, he can't. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Use this chakra either. We need to create some type of medication Inject it into him. He can't use that chakra. He can't be trusted. [00:53:31] Speaker B: Like a dampener. [00:53:33] Speaker A: Yeah, but what a sad life that will be for Deidara. That's what I'm saying. He's gonna be depressed. [00:53:37] Speaker B: Then you're gonna have to call him back in for the impression. [00:53:41] Speaker A: What? [00:53:41] Speaker B: Then you're gonna have to call him back in for depression. [00:53:43] Speaker A: Because fair play. Fair. But there was no need for him to join Akatsuki. He could have just been blowing people up randomly. But he just wanted more opportunity to And a cause to blow people up and call it art. Asshole. [00:53:54] Speaker B: Okay, then maybe he needs to find a different outlet. [00:53:56] Speaker A: A different outlet for his art? [00:53:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:59] Speaker A: Yeah. He could become a demolition artist. [00:54:02] Speaker B: There we go. [00:54:02] Speaker A: There you go, Deidara. Demolition artist. When they need a building to be pulled down, you draw your art. You do your little clays and your pots and yours. [00:54:10] Speaker B: Or even better, they could just hire you. Forget the whole department. [00:54:12] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Just you. With your fantastic chapter, you'll have so much fun. You have so much money. [00:54:17] Speaker B: You can spread it out for the whole month if you want. Like a little bomb here on a Wednesday. A little bomb here on a Friday. Look at that. [00:54:21] Speaker A: Yeah. From village to village. [00:54:24] Speaker B: Whole new career for you. [00:54:25] Speaker A: There you go. That's the end of mine. I feel like that was quite interesting. That was fun. [00:54:32] Speaker B: I think Diderot is a great character. Yeah, as I told you, he's just a fun character. Nothing about him to change. [00:54:36] Speaker A: Everything from his hair to the way he expresses himself, his mannerism. He's on that little birthday. Fantastic. [00:54:43] Speaker B: Come on. You can't hate Daedra. Apart from he's a murderer. [00:54:47] Speaker A: But you can hate. For sure. You can hate. I'm sure he's done other things. I just can't remember. [00:54:52] Speaker B: Okay, he's done things. But as we said, he just needs a different outlet. [00:54:55] Speaker A: Fairfax, moving on to red light, green light. This is focused on Full Metal Alchemist for the good. So first, Roy Mustang. [00:55:07] Speaker B: He's a green. I love him, Amber. He's so cute. [00:55:11] Speaker A: I know. He's loyal, he's driven, he's charismatic. He wants to be a leader. He is. However, he doesn't handle grief well. He did not handle Hughes's death well at all. My man went on a rampage. [00:55:24] Speaker B: Would you not? [00:55:25] Speaker A: I mean. Yeah, exactly. [00:55:26] Speaker B: He's a green light. He's fighting for the people he loves. [00:55:30] Speaker A: That. That. He's blinded by rage. No. [00:55:33] Speaker B: Okay, he was blinded by rage. But I understand his range. So I'm still keeping him as A green fair play. [00:55:37] Speaker A: And he does have a great vision. Great vision for the people of. What's the name of it? I don't remember. Anyway, great vision for the people of his land. Riza Hawkeye, his assistant. [00:55:50] Speaker B: Also green. She's background calendar. [00:55:53] Speaker A: Yeah. She's very balanced, very stable. She's very good for him. [00:55:57] Speaker B: I feel like she keeps him in check as well. [00:55:58] Speaker A: She keeps him in check, yeah. Yeah. And she's good. She's good to the boys. She's just a good character. All in all, she's good with a gun. I love a woman with a gun. [00:56:04] Speaker B: Apparently so. [00:56:05] Speaker A: I do. Scar. [00:56:09] Speaker B: Amber. [00:56:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Our first red flag. But then it becomes an amber because obviously he helps out at the end. Mass murder is not the way. My guy. So it's good that he helped out at the end. So. Good for you, Lewis. Alex Lewis Armstrong, the muscle guy. [00:56:24] Speaker B: I can't remember him, really. [00:56:25] Speaker A: The one with the. With the. The one with the sister. [00:56:28] Speaker B: Let me google you. [00:56:29] Speaker A: Yeah. Alex Lewis Armstrong. Yeah, him. [00:56:34] Speaker B: Oh, I'll put him as a green. [00:56:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. I'd say green. He's very funny. Likable, stable, emotion, emotional. You know, rightly so. And he's strong, very balanced. [00:56:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Very temperament. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Yeah. And he can lift you as well? [00:56:49] Speaker B: Very much so. [00:56:50] Speaker A: Very much so. So can his sister. Yeah. I'll take her soon. But she's a number. [00:56:58] Speaker B: Not. [00:56:58] Speaker A: Not fully. [00:56:58] Speaker B: Why is she a number, though? [00:56:59] Speaker A: Right, so she's next, Olivier. [00:57:01] Speaker B: I'm gonna give her the ringtone's brother as well. I like them both together. [00:57:04] Speaker A: I like her. I reckon I'll put her in the same level I put Roy Mustang. [00:57:08] Speaker B: Why is that, though? [00:57:09] Speaker A: She's an authoritarian, kind of. She's ruthless, unflinching, cold even to her brother. It's so funny. [00:57:20] Speaker B: Look at her. [00:57:21] Speaker A: But I wouldn't put her in the same goods as Hawkeye. [00:57:25] Speaker B: Have you seen her, though? [00:57:26] Speaker A: She's badass. [00:57:27] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. [00:57:28] Speaker A: Look at her cold, dead eyes. You think that's a green flag? My God. [00:57:33] Speaker B: I like her, though. [00:57:34] Speaker A: I like her. I'm not saying I don't like her. I love her. I think she's outstanding standing. [00:57:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:39] Speaker A: But Amber, because I like you so much, I'm gonna keep you a green Envy. [00:57:45] Speaker B: Envy is a small one, isn't it? [00:57:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Envy's a little bitch. [00:57:48] Speaker A: Envy's a. He's red cowards. I hate envy you, mate. [00:57:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:55] Speaker A: He quite literally died of all his insecurities. Little shit. And you know what's so funny? He could shape Shift as well. Anyway, he committed genocide. I hate that guy. Reds off Glad way he died. Shotaka. [00:58:14] Speaker B: Can't remember him. [00:58:14] Speaker A: Showtaka. The one who did his child. Oh, the one married his daughter and the dog. [00:58:22] Speaker B: Red. [00:58:23] Speaker A: Permanently. So you turned your child into a cre. A creature. My God. Unforgivable. [00:58:34] Speaker B: All for science. [00:58:35] Speaker A: Get out right now. Yeah, Red flag. Agreed. [00:58:44] Speaker B: He's an Amber. I don't hate him. [00:58:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't hate him either. Yeah, I say Amber. He wanted everything. Well, he ended up sacrificing himself, so maybe I'll give him a green. [00:58:55] Speaker B: Okay. [00:58:56] Speaker A: Yeah, he's not so bad. He's actually quite. I reckon it's quite good. Started out as like some selfish king type guy and then kind of ends it being selfless. That's adorable. Next is Kimber. Kimberly. Yeah, the other fire one. The one who committed all the explosion in Scar's hometown. [00:59:22] Speaker B: Amput has an unbox. I don't remember her. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Him. This guy. No, you got to know. Sorry. You got to know this guy. Kim Lee. Yeah. [00:59:29] Speaker B: Still can't remember him. Still looking at his picture. [00:59:30] Speaker A: Really? He was the bad guy of. They called him. He had a title of. I don't want to say the name of the place Wrong. [00:59:37] Speaker B: Crimson Alchemy. [00:59:39] Speaker A: Where is it? The Crimson. Yeah, the Crimson Lotus Alchemist. Guy is a nihilist. He's literally a killer. Like, let me see him in action. This was him. This is him in action. But, like the clip, but red. Don't give this an amber. Red. [00:59:53] Speaker B: Red it is. [00:59:54] Speaker A: Red, red, red, red. How about this one? [00:59:56] Speaker B: Bradley? Yeah, Bradley's a Red. He's an evil little child. [00:59:59] Speaker A: Salem, My God. He was the worst of them all. And like, he was the one that you didn't see coming. [01:00:03] Speaker B: I didn't think he was a bad character until the very end. [01:00:05] Speaker A: Until right at the. [01:00:06] Speaker B: Yeah, and then we find out he's one of the original sins. [01:00:08] Speaker A: Yeah, he's the main guy. Crazy stuff. Crazy, crazy, crazy. And then the last few. Ohenheim. [01:00:15] Speaker B: Ohenheim is one of the scientists, right? [01:00:17] Speaker A: Ohenheim is their dad. They're real. The boy is the real dad. [01:00:19] Speaker B: He's an Amber. Yeah, he abandoned them when they thought their mother died. [01:00:23] Speaker A: Yeah, he wiped out his wife and his kids. Crazy. [01:00:25] Speaker B: But he wasn't homoculated himself, was he not. [01:00:27] Speaker A: He's not. He was just somewhat immortal. He was a philosopher's stone, I believe. I don't necessarily. Like, he was kind of a coward, you know, because he was a slave and he wanted a better life. So He. He kind of got knowledge from the homunculi, the thing in the. In the flask, and got knowledge from there and helped him. But then he realized it was a bad guy. And then he went away to the thingy side and met this woman, fell in love. Instead of him to fess up to all he's done, he decides, oh no, he's going to run away and. But he didn't just run away. He ran away so that he could learn what they were doing on the other side too. So that he could then come back and kind of fight homunculi. Right. [01:01:04] Speaker B: So he could have said it. Well, he couldn't say that to his children, but he could have told someone. [01:01:10] Speaker A: So that. But I guess it was kind of dangerous, right? Because when he's found out, he's is dead, you know, so it's a hard secret to keep because he had to go into hiding. So fair play. So that's why he's an ambar. Because why did you go off and have kids? I mean, I get that you fell in love and stuff, but anyway, side eye. Indeed. Right. But yeah, ambar. Because he came back and he helped the boys and the kind of. Yeah, he redeemed himself. I guess. So, yeah. Not bad. Izumi Curtis, the one who had a baby and she did the thing that the Elrics did and it took away her woman's, I think. And she's always coughing all the time. And she was on that train, the boys remember her. And she's always throwing stuff. Super strong. [01:01:49] Speaker B: She's a green. [01:01:50] Speaker A: She's a green. Yeah, she's just. She just wanted her babies. Just such a shame. Pride. Oh, we've already talked about pride. He's. [01:01:56] Speaker B: He's. He's a red. [01:01:59] Speaker A: Like when they said flashing red. Red, Red. Like he's the worst of them all. But yeah, Salem. Salem. Salem's one of a kind. He's that Victorian boy that you just. Anyway, that's the end of Red light. Green light. This or that is next. Wait, do we have ship and skip it. No, we don't have ship Skipper. Right. Okay. Right, so this is. That is the theme is. Which character would you trust with your life? Okay, so Levi Ackerman or Gojo Satoru? [01:02:29] Speaker B: Gojo. I'm in love with Gojo. I think I've said this plenty of times. Fair play. [01:02:34] Speaker A: But I feel like Gojo would give up just because it's not fun anymore or like, because quite literally, he gave up because, like, he wants to go meet his friends and it was like, he's dead now. He can see his friends all the time, and he wanted to stay there. [01:02:46] Speaker B: But I also feel. [01:02:48] Speaker A: But he was fighting for someone, you reckon? [01:02:50] Speaker B: Yeah, because when he was. When he was trying to rescue his. His friend, when he found out that he was captured, he was doing his utmost best for him, going to the point where he was willing to go into his. Into almost his weakest point to find out his friend. [01:03:03] Speaker A: But Levi would also do the same. [01:03:05] Speaker B: Levi would do the same. [01:03:06] Speaker A: He would fight. [01:03:07] Speaker B: So far, he doesn't have powers. [01:03:09] Speaker A: Fair play. [01:03:10] Speaker B: If it was between Gojo and Levi, they're fighting to the death. Even though. [01:03:13] Speaker A: Oh, that's not fair. Of course. [01:03:14] Speaker B: Exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like, Gojo would win, but like, imagine. [01:03:17] Speaker A: In their own world. Well, I guess that's not really the. [01:03:20] Speaker B: Case here, is it? [01:03:21] Speaker A: Fair play. All right, so Rymer Stang versus Kakashi. Who would you trust? [01:03:27] Speaker B: Royal Mustang or Kakashi? This is a hard one, because I put them very much on par, you know. So Royal Mustang has his fire powers. [01:03:34] Speaker A: Yes. [01:03:35] Speaker B: And then we have Kakashi, who has lightning powers. And he has his cockpit Ninja. Yeah. And he has a little dog that fights with him sometimes. [01:03:42] Speaker A: It's the copy of Ninja Kakashi for me. I'm so sorry. So wrong. Mustang. [01:03:49] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:03:49] Speaker A: Don't underestimate my boy, Kakashi. [01:03:51] Speaker B: I'm not underestimating him, I promise you. This is why it's difficult. Because I know they've both got so much potential, but to save me. [01:03:57] Speaker A: Actually, Kakashi, he's got tracking skills and stuff. He's a ninja. Of course. I suppose any inconvenience. Rory would just be angry and I'm annoying. Would you choose? [01:04:12] Speaker B: I'm gonna go with Akashi as well. It was very slim. I'd just say. [01:04:15] Speaker A: Okay, Erwin. [01:04:19] Speaker B: Okay. [01:04:19] Speaker A: Yeah. From Attack on Titan or Lelouch. [01:04:23] Speaker B: Lelouch. [01:04:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Fair play, Killua. [01:04:27] Speaker B: Okay. [01:04:28] Speaker A: Or Sasuke. [01:04:30] Speaker B: To protect me. Yes, to protect you, Killua. [01:04:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:34] Speaker B: Sasuke's not loyal. [01:04:35] Speaker A: But when I think about it, Sasuke, if he's protecting me, like, that's his job, right? [01:04:41] Speaker B: Beamers with the highest payo. Though, if the other person's like, I'll pay you 10 times more than she. [01:04:45] Speaker A: It'S like, well, you know, Sasuke. Sasuke is not moved by money. [01:04:48] Speaker B: Okay, Sasuke is not moved by money, but he is moved by his feelings. Quite literally, just his feelings. Killua isn't guided by his feelings. He's very logical in his thoughts. [01:04:56] Speaker A: Okay, he's an assassin. I guess that is his job. But if that was Sasuke's job. If we're just gonna base it just on their powers. My guy has the rinnegat. I'm choosing Sasuke. [01:05:08] Speaker B: I'm still choosing Killua. [01:05:10] Speaker A: Don't underestimate the rinnegat. Okay, Next is Mikasa and Touka from Tokyo ghoul. [01:05:22] Speaker B: Mikasa vs Toka. On the basis that Toka does have powers, I'm gonna go with her. But Mikasa. When it comes to fighting Mikasa is much better. [01:05:32] Speaker A: Yeah. To be honest, I think I will go with Mikasa on this one. Because Toca, she got her handed to her a few times. [01:05:38] Speaker B: She has. [01:05:39] Speaker A: And Mikasa ain't ever lost. Well. But yeah. So makaza for me. Shikamaru or this one's a by the Shikamaru or Armin. [01:05:50] Speaker B: Shikamaru. [01:05:51] Speaker A: Yeah, Shikamaru Yoriichi or. Oh, you don't know who this is? So let's go. Yoriichi or Itachi to protect you. [01:06:01] Speaker B: Itachi. [01:06:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:06:02] Speaker B: He'll put anyone in a little spell. Not like in a cycle. Yeah. [01:06:06] Speaker A: Don't let me spake that. Tanjiro or Edward Elric to protect you. [01:06:13] Speaker B: Tanjiro. [01:06:14] Speaker A: Really? [01:06:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:16] Speaker A: Ah, actually I don't know who I'd. [01:06:17] Speaker B: Pick because what's his face? It's a Titan. But no. [01:06:23] Speaker A: Edward. Edward Elric, the main brother. [01:06:27] Speaker B: The main brother. No, I'm still gonna go with Tanjiro. He's less hot headed. [01:06:33] Speaker A: True. [01:06:33] Speaker B: And if someone's gonna protect me, I want them to be like locked in. [01:06:36] Speaker A: Fair play. Fair play? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said. You know what? I see what you mean. And I like what. [01:06:41] Speaker B: He would protect me with his literal life. Like his way he protects his sister. [01:06:44] Speaker A: Was literal life too. [01:06:46] Speaker B: Edward would too. But I don't think he'll be like as focused. [01:06:51] Speaker A: You know what? Because Edward's smart. He's. He's very inventive. I like Edwards. I believe in you, Mr. Elric. I'll pick you to protect me. Who's next? Ichigo or Naruto? [01:07:06] Speaker B: Oh, interesting. Ichigo or Naruto? I'm going to talk with Naruto. [01:07:14] Speaker A: I don't think Naruto is good on rescue missions. Ichigo however. [01:07:19] Speaker B: But this is not rescue mission. [01:07:20] Speaker A: He's been successful. [01:07:20] Speaker B: It's a protection regardless. [01:07:23] Speaker A: To be honest, I guess Naruto was good in his list. You know when they were doing the in. In actual Naruto. Naruto when they were going on missions, he was good with protecting people. So you know what? Yeah. [01:07:34] Speaker B: Rescue mission. It's a completely different story. Naruto's not great at rescue missions. You get sidetracked. As little side quest. [01:07:39] Speaker A: He couldn't even rescue Sasuke. [01:07:40] Speaker B: So that's what I'm saying. To protect someone. Naruto is fantastic. But if it's rescuing someone, it's someone else. [01:07:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I agree with Naruto. All right. [01:07:50] Speaker B: Ooh. [01:07:51] Speaker A: Akame from Akamega. Kill or saber. Fates stay. Fate zero. [01:07:56] Speaker B: They're very much in part. You know. They're very few swords. Both have people who want to protect. Next I'm gonna say Akame because she's a little bit more traumatized. [01:08:09] Speaker A: Okay. [01:08:09] Speaker B: And save us. [01:08:10] Speaker A: Not Spike from Cowboy Bebop. [01:08:12] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:13] Speaker A: Or Nico Robin to protect you. [01:08:16] Speaker B: Spike. [01:08:19] Speaker A: How? [01:08:19] Speaker B: I'm so sorry. [01:08:20] Speaker A: I'm so sorry. You're dead. Nico Robin with a little gun. And he's gonna do what to Nico Robin? Unless that gun has a thingy in it. It's a thingy. Bullet from the sea side Question. [01:08:33] Speaker B: Have you. Have you watched the live action of people? I thought they were doing one. [01:08:36] Speaker A: They did do one. [01:08:37] Speaker B: Have you watched it? [01:08:37] Speaker A: No. [01:08:38] Speaker B: For people who have watched it. Please let us know. Is it good? Because I'm considering it for this weekend or next weekend. Yeah. [01:08:45] Speaker A: Yagami Light. [01:08:47] Speaker B: Okay. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Or the lady in Akamega. Kill with the ice powers. I forget her name. [01:08:59] Speaker B: Like all he has to do is write people's names who are attacking me in a little book. Die of a heart attack in the three. [01:09:04] Speaker A: You have to know their name though. [01:09:06] Speaker B: I suppose so. But if I know my enemies by. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Name, it might not be them specifically that's trying to kill you. Your enemy could have died. But they could have hired someone to kill you. Contract's out. [01:09:15] Speaker B: Yeah. And sometimes people. If the contract is out once their pay is gone. What are they going to do then? They can't get paid. [01:09:20] Speaker A: How are they going to know that the person that's paying them dead? They try and contact them after you're dead? No. I'm not asking what during. When they're out. Like. [01:09:30] Speaker B: Because you know sometimes. Right? The call is like. Is there any specific things you want? Do you want us to like sever a hand? [01:09:35] Speaker A: No. They would have made that clear for me when you accepted the job. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Mate. He drew a little pinky. [01:09:46] Speaker A: I'll go with the thingy lady. The ice Pie lady. I forget her name. Rukia or Hinata? Rukia. [01:09:56] Speaker B: I agree. Hinata's strong though. [01:09:58] Speaker A: She is. Yeah. But Ricky are still. And for you guys at home, who do you think would win between Escanor from seven deadly sins and all might from my hero academia? Let us know in the comments. That'll be fun. Oh, no, no, no. Not who would win? Sorry. Who would you rather have protect you? Would it be Escanor from seven deadly sins or all might from my hero academia? Let us know in the comments. And that is the end of this episode. If you have enjoyed like comment, subscribe everything. Thank you. Thank you. And if you haven't liked it, keep that to yourself. [01:10:42] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:10:43] Speaker A: I jest. We are open to feedback. Softly worded criticism. [01:10:48] Speaker B: I send feedback. I don't want criticism. [01:10:50] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, softly worded feedback. Softly. The critical thing here. [01:10:54] Speaker B: Gentle, gentle, compassionate. [01:10:55] Speaker A: Even pat us in the head Compassionate. [01:10:57] Speaker B: Like you're fantastic. Have you considered doing xyz? [01:11:01] Speaker A: Exactly. You know, we're just girls. All right, thank you so much for listening, guys. Bye bye. All right.