Reality Checked: Why Are Dating Shows Taking Over Our Screens?

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Hello, welcome back to Aria Sakai. [00:00:04] Speaker B: Hi. Evening. It is late. [00:00:07] Speaker A: It is very late to the Thursday evening. [00:00:09] Speaker B: On a work night. [00:00:10] Speaker A: On a work night? No way. [00:00:13] Speaker B: Who works on a wake at night anyway? [00:00:14] Speaker A: Could someone be going somewhere? Could that be the reason why we're recording early? [00:00:19] Speaker B: Well, we tried to record on Saturday. [00:00:21] Speaker A: We did, we did. Even a Monday. I know. Cheese day. [00:00:26] Speaker B: Actually, no, we didn't try yesterday. [00:00:28] Speaker A: We didn't even bother. Oh. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Oh, done. [00:00:33] Speaker A: Right. Yeah, we didn't even bother. So that's okay. Well, welcome back to our isekai where we discuss things that matters to us. Anything from anime trending topics, reality TV shows and films, and so on and so forth. All right, so today. Oh, right. I am Uchenna, your overpowered mc. [00:00:58] Speaker B: I'm just the main character, but this is developing. Did you use ChatGPT? [00:01:02] Speaker A: Of course I did. You gotta be on theme. So you're gonna see what we're seeing in the video version. I've literally turned myself into Starfire. Cause we're doing a D.C. this or that and I've turned her into Wonder Woman. [00:01:16] Speaker B: Fantastic. [00:01:16] Speaker A: And AI has done that. Isn't that pretty? So, yeah, I'm loving the pose though. [00:01:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:26] Speaker A: It's the eyes for me. [00:01:27] Speaker B: Right. [00:01:27] Speaker A: It's giving them from Titans, Starfire and Titans. Yeah. [00:01:33] Speaker B: I was thinking more of the one we watched with the sickle cell patients. The eyes closed sometimes. [00:01:37] Speaker A: Oh, supercell. No, but. But that's. That's yellow. Yeah, with the glowing eyes. [00:01:42] Speaker B: Yeah, when they use the pallors. [00:01:46] Speaker A: Alrighty, so today we're mainly going to be focusing on dating shows. The pros, the cons. Why on earth are there so many. [00:01:57] Speaker B: Too many at this point? [00:01:59] Speaker A: I mean, and a few TikTok trends. The one that you saw, if we get to it. [00:02:04] Speaker B: Okay, the one. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Because I was about to say just that one. I did not do my. Just the comment section on that particular one because I was like, no, because I thought that was quite funny. [00:02:12] Speaker B: It was a funny one, to be honest. But after that you said, let's do more. I did not find anything. [00:02:16] Speaker A: No, I said either one or two. [00:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah. On my TikTok feed. That was a foot. [00:02:21] Speaker A: That was the only one. No, I saw the last one. [00:02:22] Speaker B: Last one mentioned it and I was like, oh, I haven't done my homework because I haven't gone back to look for anything. [00:02:28] Speaker A: You know what at least is somewhere in your conversation. Somewhere downstream. And red light, green light is going to be on One Piece up to. What are the characters in One piece up to Thriller Bark. [00:02:40] Speaker B: Because I am currently in Thriller. Bark. [00:02:41] Speaker A: Yay. [00:02:42] Speaker B: And Usopp. I have a love hate relationship with Usopp. You know Usopp? Usopp, Yes. I had a love relationship. Love hate relationship with Usopp. [00:02:52] Speaker A: He's a coward. Like, he's. But he's trying to be brave. He's trying to be a brave, courageous. [00:02:56] Speaker B: Man of the scene that's currently in. Right. He was about to get defeated by the ghost princess. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Right? [00:03:03] Speaker B: Right. [00:03:03] Speaker A: Perenna. I love her. [00:03:07] Speaker B: She's a fantastic character. She brings me joy when I see her. [00:03:10] Speaker A: Right. [00:03:12] Speaker B: So he was like, that's not fair. You can't. How are you going through me? I can't fight you properly. I'm like, bitch, it's a fight. You don't have to be fair. Because beforehand he was gloating about how well he was doing because now he found someone weaker than him. [00:03:25] Speaker A: Well, you'll see. Because I feel like they always. Usopp was Nami. They win in a wacky way, in a way that you're not really expecting, but they always win. The way he wins is going to be very interesting. [00:03:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I get that. When he wins, he wins big. But at the same time, I'm like, stop trying to act like you're Saki. Stop trying to act like you're Zora. You're not on that level yet. [00:03:47] Speaker A: No, he never does that, though. He tries to be as strong and as courageous as them, obviously. But he doesn't try to be them. [00:03:53] Speaker B: No, he doesn't. But the point was like, he was like the point where I am currently where I'm talking from. So he was like, I was so happy when I found someone that I can fight and you guys can't fight. That's a literal transcription. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's. Don't you think it's nice to find, like, for example, Sanji has a huge weakness. He can't fight women. Yeah, but Usopp has no problems with that. I mean, remember the CP9 situation? That was embarrassing for Sanji? There you go. [00:04:22] Speaker B: I don't think Sanji was embarrassed by that. [00:04:24] Speaker A: No, he wasn't. But he's just by principle that he doesn't fight women. And it's got. It's a long story. You're not there yet. But anyway. And then we'll go to our this or that where it's favorite DC characters. And then there's a new segment that I've just introduced. I'm keeping this one guessing. I'm calling it Ship it or Skip It. It's a short segment. It's kind of like the rapid fire this or that. [00:04:47] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:48] Speaker A: But it's just basically random pairings if you'd ship them or skip them. Right. [00:04:53] Speaker B: On theme for dating. [00:04:54] Speaker A: On theme for the dating, right? Yeah, exactly. All right, so why are there so many TV shows? These are just prompts for us to, like, kind of go through. [00:05:04] Speaker B: So main topics, today's dating shows. So there's too many of them. So I've just recently finished watching Temptation Island USA version. And before that I was watching a South African dating show as well. And then obviously before that there was Love is Blind. And then during summer last year, there was There's Love Island. [00:05:25] Speaker A: Love Island, There's Love island. [00:05:26] Speaker B: Then the first series of Too Hard to Handle. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Yeah. There's also the whole universe that Netflix is kind of trying to create with Love is Blind People, the Love Games, the people from Love is Blind People, from the Ultimatum, the Ultimatum Too Hot to Handle, and a few of the other reality TV shows kind of all coming together. And it's a bit. I don't know. I don't. I didn't quite know. But when you think about where we're coming from, though, we're coming from shows like Blind Dates and like Take Me out. And like, obviously there's now a new version of Take Me out, which is the pop in the balloon. Did you know that Netflix did a live version of it the other day? [00:06:04] Speaker B: I saw. I saw. [00:06:05] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Did you watch it? [00:06:06] Speaker A: No, of course not. I mean, maybe I will eventually get into. Into it or look at it at some point, but it's just sometimes the way they speak, it's just very agitating. [00:06:19] Speaker B: In what way? [00:06:21] Speaker A: It's mainly the Met. No, some of the women have come and they've done that, but obviously you got to give men shit. There was one I saw recently where the guy comes on and he's like, oh, he doesn't like. Oh, what was it? He specifically said something about the woman. Was it the. Maybe. I think it was the way her makeup was done. Or like, I think it was her brows. Her brows. He commented on her brows. He doesn't like the way. I don't know, but he doesn't like the weight. [00:06:48] Speaker B: She did them. She did them. [00:06:51] Speaker A: This man was wearing like a three piece suit with a whole. [00:06:56] Speaker B: Did you. We watched the one I was showing you about the fitness edition. [00:06:59] Speaker A: Oh, right. And then the guy, the sugar daddies as well. Oh, my goodness. And the girl with the huge chest. [00:07:06] Speaker B: Oh, my goodness. But sometimes it Highlights like, I've noticed sometimes it highlights like, key things in, in the different perspectives of men and women when it comes to dating. Especially with the pop. The balloon version that we. We watched together recently. Especially in regards to what men would view as fit and what women view as fit. [00:07:24] Speaker A: Right. [00:07:25] Speaker B: In regards to, like, these women were like, oh, yeah, I go to the gym with xyz. Men were like, okay, but you don't particularly look like you go to the gym. And I was like, not everyone. [00:07:33] Speaker A: Not everyone who goes to the gym. [00:07:34] Speaker B: Looks like they go to the gym especially. It depends on what type of version of fitness you do. You may have more muscle than other other people. [00:07:41] Speaker A: Yeah. It just feels like dating shows have kind of become some type of national sport, an international sport, to be honest, because it's everywhere. Every country has their own. And it seems to be like they tend to also in some way kind of. Because obviously you've got what the Bachelor, you've got the Bachelorette. If we're gonna go to, you know, to America and to like a dating show that's, you know, lasted for God knows how long. If we're gonna go to like back in the days with America, there's the flavor of love or love flavor or something. And I don't think there were also obviously when you then come back to like the 2010s 2012, we had are youe the One? Did you remember Are youe the One? [00:08:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I. [00:08:21] Speaker A: That was revolutionary. And then I think there was a few like Marriagey. Oh, what's that one called? 90 Day Fiance. And then obviously Love island obviously started around that time as well and gained so much, so much popularity. It's gone to America. It's gone south. It's gone to Australia. Other, like countries have their own version. And even, even bringing, bringing it right down to Big Brother because it's seeming like these love. Like these dating shows are kind of becoming some type of Big Brother esque type of game shows. Yeah. Where these are obviously people's lives that we're kind of dealing with. And it's like it's become something to like, talk about. But obviously I know that relationships, the relationship dynamics has kind of always been a hot topic, especially recently with the rise of obviously more women being single. And did you see the news about men turning to religion? More men are turning to religion. [00:09:13] Speaker B: That was happening. [00:09:15] Speaker A: I said misogyny, but okay, it's all right. [00:09:19] Speaker B: They're not looking for misogyny. It's more the case that they're turning. [00:09:22] Speaker A: To a religion that says women have to do what the men say. [00:09:26] Speaker B: To be honest, sometimes I think people misrepresent represents. [00:09:29] Speaker A: Of course they do. But we're talking about. Yeah, but we're talking about American evangelism here. [00:09:36] Speaker B: They're very one track, one sided in it. Yeah, that's very fair. But yeah, people need to read the full script and what it actually does say. There is aspects of that, but there's also the parallel where it says love your wife as you love the church. So where's the love in that? [00:09:51] Speaker A: I'm just, I'm just saying also Paul, if we're going to go by the New Testament, Paul does not believe in, you know, doing stuff even with your wife. He's against it. So who are you going to follow? Are you going to follow like the Bible doesn't have one tone or one message? No, it's different voices, different messages, different people. And it irks me when people try to make it into like a thing that says one thing because it doesn't say one thing. Otherwise we wouldn't have the Old Testament and the New Testament. And also we need to know that these are different people from different times saying completely different things to completely different people that existed at an entirely different time where they didn't have laptops, that didn't have computers. Fair enough. I'm not saying that there's not something we could learn from that society because we can always learn from every single society. But I'm very curious as to why we've decided to. Oh, and that's where I end on that one. Okay. Going right back to dating shows and obviously how, how pop though it's become and it's, it's because what's your favorite. [00:11:00] Speaker B: Thing show you've watched so far? [00:11:03] Speaker A: To be honest, I don't really have a favorite. [00:11:05] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:06] Speaker A: For the longest time. Love is Blind. [00:11:08] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:09] Speaker A: And Love is Blind. The US obviously season one. I was captivated from the get go. I definitely preferred the UK version last year but obviously that's because they've only had one season so far. It has enough time for it to become rubbish. Maths is an interesting concept. However, they're especially the Australia one. Australian one. There's some issues coming up about like how they may or may not be abusing them or coercing them. [00:11:37] Speaker B: Into relationships. [00:11:38] Speaker A: No, into staying or recording for long hours, maybe not feeding them stuff like that. So it will be interesting to see how far that would go. I, I took a peek at the American one. Maths. It just got, I want there's a, there's a. There's a therapist in there that I want to smack. I want to smack her what she think. Sometimes when she says things, I'm just like, are you actually a therapist? Like, are you? Because in my opinion, a therapist is meant to stay neutral. But sometimes it was mainly when she was talking to this black woman. It robbed me off the. It just rubbed me off the wrong way. I don't know why. Maybe it's just me, but it did. But if I was to pick one, I'd pick Love is Blind for actual dating. And I'll pick for entertainment and shock value. Love Island. A shock value and entertainment. Maybe not shock value. Maybe just entertainment. Shock value. I'd say the Ultimatum. [00:12:44] Speaker B: I was about to say the ultimatum was one of my favorites. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Yeah. But Temptation island comes close because I'm like, why are you even there? Why are you testing your relationship? That's so funny. [00:12:52] Speaker B: You can say the same about the ultimatum because those people are already in pre existing. [00:12:55] Speaker A: That's why I said it came close. But these ones, they want to get married in the ultimatum. That's why they're not. That one is a bit further, further up for me. You know what I mean? [00:13:04] Speaker B: I think that for me it was very. It's very realistic because it does in comparison to the Temptation island that you go on and you swap with other partners, which is a red flag. Why do you want, like, why would you go and test your relationship like that if you know it's not strong enough to withhold it? [00:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:20] Speaker B: But nonetheless, I feel like it's. I feel if you get to the point where you have to ask for an ultimatum that your relationship is going to. Is about to break down. And as it stands, that's my, that's my opinion anyway. But sometimes ultimatums are needed in a relationship just to get things. Like everyone's on the right page. But in their instance where it's like, I want to get married, but you're telling me you don't want to get married. I'm going to give you an ultimatum. At that point, you should be like, cool, cool, cool. Clearly our past aren't aligned. Is there a way we meet in the middle where we can do a partnership and she says, no, I don't. Maybe they do a celebration without the marriage certificate sort of thing where they both wear rings to signify together. They can try and reach a compromise with that. But to go and say this or that and potentially break your relationship, I'm like, cool, cool, cool. Majority of them don't last. [00:14:09] Speaker A: In all honesty, I think sometimes people over complicate what a marriage is. [00:14:16] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair. [00:14:17] Speaker A: Not all the time, just sometimes. And I also think that people who want to get into marriages, and I'm going to narrow this down because this is my opinion, women who want to get married, especially the religious ones that are keeping themselves. I've barely had a relationship with any man. They don't know how to speak to them. They don't know them. For madam, you've only had one boyfriend your entire life or two, myself included, by the way. You have this image in your head. You haven't even done the intimate as well, but not properly either. And then you just get into a marriage and all of a sudden there's this person there and you're losing your mind because your idea of what a marriage is, it doesn't fit what you're currently in and you're spazzing out and you don't know how to act. Right. All of a sudden there's fights, the boys including, in fact including the men as well because they today it's like they don't know how to speak to women or like to them. Women aren't even. People like you don't see each other as people. I don't even. [00:15:18] Speaker B: Anyway, would you say dating, she was all a lesson for us to learn? [00:15:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I do think it is something to learn from, but I don't. I think the appeal, in my opinion, I think the appeal to us is the voyeurism aspect. It's the aspect that we can watch these people's lives on telly and giggle about it. I'm so sorry. It sounds very objectifying and very inhumane, but I feel like that is the appeal. The appeal is that we can watch these people do these things that we think are so intimate and laugh about it and have a chat and giggle about it on. On Tick Tock on Instagram and have our little takes on threads or whatever on X and then engagement from that and people are just chatting. I think that's the appeal. I think the appeal is also the fact that with something like Love island, we can also impact these people and do these things. Right. There's also. With specifically Love island, there's a Stan culture as well to it. And I feel like that can also follow with. What's the name of that show Love is Blind as well, where people just blindly follow a couple that they think are so lovely, but you really don't know what the actual relationship is like. It's the same thing with all these me and my boyfriend TikTok pages and stuff. [00:16:42] Speaker B: I actually don't believe a couple should have, like, couple accounts. [00:16:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And like, you root for these couples, you're pretty much invested in their relationship at this point. And then all of a sudden these people are asking for privacy and you're like, when you were over sharing. [00:17:01] Speaker B: Sometimes it's not like that. [00:17:02] Speaker A: When you went on a reality TV show to go find love. Now you want to be secretive. [00:17:07] Speaker B: I think they can't handle the pressure of speculation that comes with being a couple's accounts. [00:17:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it is a lot. It's a lot. [00:17:14] Speaker B: It is a lot. But as I said, I would prefer, in my opinion, I would prefer if they had like separate accounts. And every so often they go into each other's. [00:17:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Like there's a crossover here and there that those people are together. Yeah. [00:17:24] Speaker B: But sometimes I feel like doing a strict couple's accounts sometimes does add pressure onto relationship. Especially if you're doing. If you're trying to go viral per se, you'll be doing things that you might go against your personality. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Some instances, the ones that worry me are the prank ones. [00:17:38] Speaker B: Sometimes they're mean, they're not needed. Sometimes. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah, like, why are we doing it? Like, why you. Oh, my God. There's the one that, like the guy's sleeping and like she's. It's in the dark and you're wearing like a mask and you're scaring the. And then there's the one that has a thing that falls down every time they come through the door. And I'm just like, it's not needed. I think maybe this is because personally I like peace. [00:18:01] Speaker B: I don't think that's it. [00:18:02] Speaker A: I just don't even that because obviously if you're the type of couple that plays around, you guys prank each other, stuff like that, then obviously that's okay. And you're inviting people to kind of watch how fun you guys can be. Sure. But every day. [00:18:14] Speaker B: Well, that's what I'm saying. I think sometimes it adds pressure because that might not be the dynamics on a day to day basis. Maybe it's like once a week or once a month. They're like that. [00:18:20] Speaker A: Or like one day they just like, okay, today we're gonna film pranking content. [00:18:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:24] Speaker A: And they do it like 50 times. They change 50 times and then they've got enough content for like a whole month or whatever. Honestly, is it stress if it feeds the family more power to you? You know, well done to you. [00:18:34] Speaker B: But for me and myself and I, we're not having it. I. I'm a very much low maintenance kind of person. As in, I come for my. Take a nap. Don't be pranking me as I'm taking my nap. [00:18:44] Speaker A: No, no. Fair play. So now let's go to, like, the risque dating shows. Yeah. I'm talking the Naked Attraction. Yeah. Temptation Island. No, Naked Attraction. Naked Attraction. My mum, First Date Hotels. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Did you watch the Mario Void? [00:19:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:04] Speaker B: Goodness me. [00:19:06] Speaker A: Oh, like, dinner date was fantastic. Oh, yeah. The one where you got to do the clothing ones. [00:19:15] Speaker B: Yes, yes, yes. [00:19:16] Speaker A: Where you go shopping. [00:19:17] Speaker B: That was an outfit. She has to rate your outfit. And then. [00:19:19] Speaker A: Oh, PCK tv, itvb, man. That was the show. That was a channel. I loved every moment. Single Man, Reveal yourself. [00:19:33] Speaker B: I loved it, honestly. [00:19:35] Speaker A: Oh, my goodness. Anyway, the point I'm trying to make here. Sorry, with risque dating shows. Right. Is the spectacle of it. Right. That's the one where a kid will bring their dad, a young boy will bring his dad, a young lady will bring her mom, and then the parents would date. Have you seen that one? [00:19:56] Speaker B: No, I haven't, but I've heard about it. [00:19:58] Speaker A: Right, so have you seen Love on the Spectrum as well? [00:20:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't. I've watched an episode, but I didn't fully finish it. [00:20:07] Speaker A: Right. Okay. So in fact, maybe I might add, Love is Blind to this one as well because they do include the family. So let's. Let's take our Naked Attraction. First of all, let's talk about the dating shows. That includes your family members. [00:20:19] Speaker B: Okay. [00:20:21] Speaker A: And just, first of all, what do you think about that? Just imagine if this was you, that you went on a show like Love is Blind and you've done this. It's been however many months and now people are on TikTok and on Instagram just tweeting or whatever about how you said something on the show that might not have been the way you intended it to come out. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:51] Speaker A: And now you're being lashed and ridiculed in line for it. And your family members are seeing this. [00:21:00] Speaker B: I would have preempted. Preempted my family. [00:21:03] Speaker A: Oh, right. For such a thing. Right. [00:21:05] Speaker B: Yeah. I would have been like, I'm going on a dating show. So if you're on socials, you may. [00:21:11] Speaker A: You might want to leave. [00:21:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:12] Speaker A: You might want to leave for a couple. For a couple months. [00:21:15] Speaker B: I'm gonna go on a basis assumption that tell your closest friends and families where you're going to be for God knows how long. [00:21:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Some of them do some of them don't. [00:21:21] Speaker B: Because you're going away for like three months. Obviously, if someone's going to. My mom, if I was gone for three months, she would be calling. She'd call you. [00:21:28] Speaker A: She would. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:21:29] Speaker B: My mom would call. [00:21:30] Speaker A: In fact, she'll be here, so I. [00:21:32] Speaker B: Would have to tell her, I'm going to xyz, I'll be back in three months. And then she's like, cool, cool, cool. When you arrive, just send me a quick message. If you don't, you don't have your phone through the whole process. Just do a quick check in when you do arrive. So that's what would happen. But my mom's not on socials like that to know. But I preemptively tell the people who are on socials. [00:21:49] Speaker A: Right. That this. This. Yeah, yeah, that. No, that's fair. And also, you can't really help how you're edited. [00:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:56] Speaker A: In post production. So. Yeah, no, that's. That's. I. I used to be honest. I don't know what I'd do. Probably just not say anything. Just carry on as long as I can make money and then go be fine. If it's hurting my money somehow, I. I'll definitely crash out. Yeah, I don't know what I'll do, but I'll crash out. I wouldn't cancel. No business deals. What the hell? [00:22:22] Speaker B: No, I mean, if your edit was that bad that you lose, like, existing. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Business deals, like, I would technically be a nobody. [00:22:29] Speaker B: Okay, what if you want. [00:22:33] Speaker A: Which no data show currently is like that. You could have celebrity dating shows. Ooh, that would be interesting. [00:22:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:38] Speaker A: What then I'd like to host that. [00:22:40] Speaker B: Actually, because Dancing on Ice, I think there was a standoff. [00:22:42] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's not a dating show. [00:22:43] Speaker B: It's not a dating show. But my point is, what if she were someone who was rich and famous actually wasn't there Footballer's daughter who went on Love is Blind? [00:22:53] Speaker A: No, that's Love Island. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Love Island. Okay, so if she had brand deals prior to going on Love island and she got a brand edit, that could affect her contracts. Depending on what the contracts. [00:23:04] Speaker A: Yeah, but that specific girl. They weren't gonna do that. They weren't. [00:23:07] Speaker B: But I'm saying what. What then? Because that would be affecting your money. [00:23:13] Speaker A: Depends. Like I said, sometimes you could be the villain and still come out popular and ride that popularity to a brand deal, depending on how well your management is. Or. Fair enough, you know, I mean, what's her name? Anna. From OV's season. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:23:40] Speaker A: She wasn't exactly Miss Nicey Nicey Nicey. She was very straight talking. She was very. To the point. She wasn't. She was quite polarizing. Not everyone liked her character, but she's come out and she's doing well. [00:23:52] Speaker B: That's fair. [00:23:53] Speaker A: The people that like you will like you and the people that don't. You'll build a brand on the hate. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Look at you being very positive. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, look, there's opportunities. You just have to. You have to be. You have to be looking. You have to be open. But obviously there's also the fact that these people are people that while as much as we can spectate and look at their lives and their lives are pretty much entertainment for us for like one season or for however many months, they are human beings. And I feel like sometimes we tend to forget that. So I want to put that, like, at the top. Say that we kind of remember that. Please. With Big Brother coming, coming back, with Love island coming on. These are people. These are human beings. I'm not saying that they should not be held accountable because when you act, you know, but they are still people and they deserve to be treated like. So speaking of people who deserve to be treated like people and like their own person and shouldn't be scrutinized just because they're a little bit mean. Diversity in shows, in dating shows. [00:25:03] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Do you think that the dating shows does diversity justice? Because there's. There's two sides, right? There's the people who say there should be more diversity. [00:25:14] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:14] Speaker A: And there's the people who say diverse people. I beg you, don't go on these shows. [00:25:20] Speaker B: I think it's a combination of both because these shows can be overstimulating to people, especially if you're going to be on camera. I'm not sure about how long the recording periods are, but from what I've heard, it's very tasking to have a camera crew follow you all around. And how daunting that can be. I mean, some of them have said they get so used to it, they forget the camera following them. But that's not the case for everybody. Sometimes they'll be like, the camera's watching me and they can't be themselves. Yeah. And I feel like sometimes that can. That hinders. That hinders everyone, anyone. [00:25:52] Speaker A: But I think more the concern here is more the backlash that they could get. They could. They tend to get majority of the time. Or the secondhand embarrassment that they tend to get that the viewers tend to get when I say, like, because specifically Love island of the black girl just standing there, being all, you know, alone and not being picked. [00:26:16] Speaker B: But that's a reflection of our society right now, though. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Is it? Now? That's now. Is it? [00:26:23] Speaker B: In some circumstances, I feel that is okay. [00:26:27] Speaker A: Maybe not in our experience. [00:26:28] Speaker B: Maybe not in our experience, but black people don't make up that large percentage of the UK population as it stands. [00:26:33] Speaker A: I agree. [00:26:34] Speaker B: Most, Most people tend to date within what they know. So true. Some black men will date black women, some white men will date white women. That's the reflection of where we are. It's not to say that people don't choose other people outside of those two fragments or outside of the fragments in general, but I feel sometimes it's a reflection of how society is. [00:26:56] Speaker A: I do, however, think that in the last, I want to say, five years, an argument could be made for about seven, but five. There has been an increase in the desirability of black women. But my concern is the over sexualization. But that's always been there. But still there has been a rise in the desirability of black women. And that's a pro. [00:27:19] Speaker B: I think it is a pro. [00:27:21] Speaker A: And it comes with what we're seeing on telly and what everyone is seeing on telly. That black women are just. [00:27:28] Speaker B: That's beautiful. [00:27:29] Speaker A: Just people. They're just, they, we, oh my God. We're just people. And, and also it, to be honest, there's always been black women in British tv. [00:27:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:42] Speaker A: That have been desirable. That lady that said that was with Simon Cowell for like, so Sunita. [00:27:52] Speaker B: I. [00:27:53] Speaker A: Don'T think she's really had any scandal. Gorgeous woman. She's been in telly for the longest time. The lady that's just gone a big brother. She used to, she used to do the kids telly. And that's a black woman, you know, So I, I, I, I, I don't think necessarily that black women in the UK have a bad reputation, but I think my experience might be very skewed because another woman could say that the image of a black woman in the UK is aggressive. I said another, but not in my experience. [00:28:30] Speaker B: I have not thought. [00:28:31] Speaker A: But this could be someone who's lived in a more urban environment. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Fair enough. [00:28:35] Speaker A: With more quote, unquote attitude from young black girls. But they're teenagers. Which teenager do you know that doesn't have attitude? And I also feel like there's a little bit of bias there because it's more noticeable for you as someone of another race. I'm not gonna lie. It's harder for me to take disrespect from someone that's not the same race as me. [00:28:58] Speaker B: That's good. [00:28:59] Speaker A: And I think personally, I give black women a lot more grace because I can relate. But I also try to catch myself in my bias with people of other races where I'm also like, okay, give them grace, but don't be letting people step all over you. Right? [00:29:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:19] Speaker A: And when I say people, I mean people. It doesn't matter. If you're going to get banged out, you're going to get banged out. I don't do that. It's very rarely that's not happened in the last 20 years. I could tell you that for a fact. [00:29:33] Speaker B: No, you just come home and crash and you have a bad day. [00:29:35] Speaker A: Yeah, now I just crash. I just. I look at you. I would use my words and I walk away. But anyway, my point is, the image of black women, I think, has been on the rise and it's been positive. Obviously, recently we had the whole thing with Whitney and that was so disheartening. [00:29:53] Speaker B: To see the bullying allegations. [00:29:55] Speaker A: It was the racist comments that I didn't understand. Fair enough. She wasn't necessarily the nicest, but Jesus Christ, how many other races of women have we or other women have been, quote unquote, villains on TV shows that there's no need to go with the. With the whole race insults. You can say, you're mean, you're a mean. Why were you. Why were you so mean? I've always said this. I don't understand someone being mean to someone else on telly. Right. And then me going on my WhatsApp or not my WhatsApp on my Instagram and sending a direct message to the person that was. That was. That's a bully and being like, I'm gonna find you. What's it got to do with me? What has it actually got to do with me? [00:30:36] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:30:37] Speaker A: So I don't understand that. Because you're fighting someone else's battle. And who's. Who told you that Dylan had an issue with it? Like, who told anybody that Dylan had an issue with it? That's why I don't understand. And it's likely. And also there was a thing that happened during the reunion where they all came back together and she did something with. With the footballer. I. His name just escapes me just right now. I know his name. I know who he is. And she kind of said something a little bit out of pocket, but it didn't seem like the man himself took that much of an offense to It. But other people were just so riding and I'm just like, why are you carrying someone else's headache? Like, come on. So anyway, my point is when there's people on telly, let's remember that it is telly. And a lot of them put it on and let. Oh, it's the same thing with. When you see something that triggers you on tick tock. Just remember it's not for you and keep it moving. You block and keep it moving. Is it me or on my for you page? There's been a rise of religious stuff and I've been blocking them one by one. This modesty dressing people. As soon as it comes on, I go into their page, block, keep it moving. I don't know why TikTok. Sort yourself out. [00:31:53] Speaker B: It's just your TikTok. [00:31:55] Speaker A: It is. [00:31:55] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:31:56] Speaker A: They're trying to get me, mate. They're trying to get me. [00:31:58] Speaker B: What is all jokes. [00:32:01] Speaker A: But do you think that Love island should be more diverse? I do think they need to be more diverse in the sense of not just black people. I want it all. There's not just black people. I mean, to be honest, there's been more diversity in Love Island. There's been more South Asians, obviously, more people with African backgrounds. There's only ever been, I think, one East Asian. I want to say. Do you remember who that is? Has there even been one? I think there's been a woman. There's been a girl, but I don't think there's been a guy. I want one, please. Oh my God. That sounds so like I'm objectifying. However, with the rise of Korean drama and stuff. Come on, come on. Surely there's a. There's a. There's a Korean, Chinese, Vietnamese, any, any one of those countries that's good looking and tall and whatever and also wants fame. Surely there's a. But there's a bucket load. Bring them on. The girls want to see, I'm sure. Not me, though. I wouldn't. And obviously I'm talking about. I'm talking about this as well from a very hetero normative space. And I believe it's because of what we consume because I haven't. I've only ever seen one very diverse in terms of like sexuality. And that is the recent, the most recent. Are you the one that I saw. [00:33:35] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:36] Speaker A: Did you watch There were queer. There were queer couples in there. [00:33:39] Speaker B: The ultimatum queer version? [00:33:41] Speaker A: Oh, no, I didn't. [00:33:43] Speaker B: I watched that. I actually quite enjoyed it. I was hoping I was going to do A second season. [00:33:46] Speaker A: Another season. [00:33:47] Speaker B: But they haven't. And I loved it, honestly. [00:33:50] Speaker A: Do you think we need more of that as well? [00:33:52] Speaker B: I. I do, yeah. [00:33:53] Speaker A: Because I think it would shed light on how. I can't believe I'm gonna say this. The other side lives like. It would. It would hopefully unstigmatize these people. These people. It would. I'm gonna stop talking now. [00:34:09] Speaker B: I think I want more of it. Just. [00:34:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I want more of it. Because it would be. One, it will be entertaining. Two, we would learn a lot. Three, they're just fun. [00:34:19] Speaker B: Yeah. And it just shows you, like. [00:34:20] Speaker A: I feel like it will be messy. [00:34:23] Speaker B: You're the one who like, what speculators. And now you're like, me too. What a speculator. [00:34:27] Speaker A: I did say there's a level of voyeurism here. And hands up, no shame. Jesus Christ. [00:34:36] Speaker B: I think it would shed light on, like, different dynamics of relationship, because as you said, most of the ones we do watch are heteronormative. And that's not always the standby. Standby line of, like, how and if they were. [00:34:46] Speaker A: And I also think, like, there's a lack of knowledge of how the other side lives because something you don't know, you would somewhat villainize. You might villainize. So if it's made normal and we see more of would just be life, you know? And I feel like, obviously, the uk, we are very. I'm. I'm hoping that we don't regress, like, the way America has. We have communities of multiple, diverse people and different cultures. And that's something I've always loved about the uk and in fact, even, you know, there's this whole thing about white people not having a culture. I've never thought that. I've never thought that to be true. I saw a TikTok recently about a British woman who currently lives in Australia, I believe or is in New Zealand. And it. It's international. It's cultural day at school, so they need to come in their own cultural clothing. And the woman was like, oh, she's stumped. She doesn't know what to do. Because last year they went in football costume. I'm like, what do you mean? These kids could dress as Peaky Blinders. They could go in as Oliver Twist. They could go in as, like, as people from the Tudor era. [00:36:03] Speaker B: That's okay. [00:36:04] Speaker A: They could go. And tweed. That's a British thing. And I don't understand where this whole non culture thing is because they have dances and I mean, the whole. The entire language is technically theirs. Yeah. So So I. I don't. I don't. One, I don't know where it's coming from. And two, you guys need to talk yourself up as well, because you do have a culture, you do have an identity, and it can definitely survive with the multitude of cultures that we currently have. If anything, we. Myself, I've absorbed some of UK culture, I'd say, or English people's culture. [00:36:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:43] Speaker A: And I feel like a lot of English people that are exposed to African culture or the Asian culture, they've kind of taken a little bit of that in as well. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:52] Speaker A: So I understand this whole polarizer nonsense. We need to shove it to the other side. Shove it. I'd also like to talk about adolescence just for. No, no, I wouldn't. We're talking about dating. Because if I start. That was. That was another episode. Anyway, so question. Why do you keep watching these shows? The more that. Because there's obviously so many and we even planning on watching more. Why do you keep watching? [00:37:24] Speaker B: Why I keep watching. [00:37:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:37:25] Speaker B: I find it interesting. I find it hard to comprehend why people would go on a dating show. And the only way to find out why people are on the dating show is during, like, I think it's like the first few episodes. That's one of the questions, regardless of which dating show you go to is like, why are you here? And sometimes it is that speculative nature's like, do I actually believe you're here for the reason that you're here for? And the only reason to find out that is to watch. [00:37:50] Speaker A: So. But some people are so good at acting. [00:37:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:54] Speaker A: So, yeah, I keep watching because it's like a. You just. I just can't avert my eyes. It's like when something not entertaining but something that captivates your attention is happening, you just can't. I can't look away. I'm just. I'm captivated by it. I'm very. I'm stumped by it as well, because I understand the need to go, but at the same time, I'm just like, wow, like, you're actually doing this. Like, you're actually doing this. Like, this is insane. I do, however, think that some of them are real or they start with a real intentions, but producers and what the people want, you know, kind of sometimes gets in the way because otherwise then we'll say it's boring and it's not entertaining anymore. But guys, these are people's lives. Technically, it shouldn't be entertaining. Technically, it shouldn't be entertaining because when you think about season one of Love is blind. The couple that lasted the longest, they were kind of boring. [00:39:05] Speaker B: I didn't watch neither one. [00:39:07] Speaker A: Boring. Love them so sweet. Boring. So lovely. The love was so strong. It wasn't boring. It was endearing. And imagine having to watch that. Imagine if every single person had that type of connection. That's not realistic. That would be. There's no entertainment there. There's no reason why that will be on telly. That's just a proper experiment. And I'm very curious as to how this. Speaking of specifically Love is blind. How is the experiment been taken out? What are the parameters? What are the questions being asked? Who are the people doing this so called experiment? Like what actually is the experiment? Because no one maybe have just not looked, but they've not put it on telly. I want to see the report. Netflix. I would like to see the report. Maybe someone does a little report TV report essay presentation thing after the reunion and tell us so and so couple succeeded after so many years. I mean you've been doing this now for five years. Surely you have a specific amount of success rate. You have a specific amount of failures. Reasons why. Let's see. Because we're here with the, with you with the experiment to see what it's really like in certain countries or certain states in America specifically other countries as well. Let's see what you guys have compiled so far. How long is this experiment going on for? Do you guys. It's the reason why it's still going on because you guys need a larger pool. Like a larger. Not test subjects but you know, people test pool. Is that correct? [00:40:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Sample size. [00:40:51] Speaker A: Sample size, yes. Is that actually you need more and you need them to be more diverse. That's why we're going from state to state because obviously I hear it. That makes sense. But what. Where are we going? Because they're calling it an experiment, but where are we going with it? It's the same thing with maths as well. I want to report at the end. What's the, what's the experiment like? You know what I mean? You can't do an experiment and just results. Where's the result? Yeah, what's the success rate? What are you. What's the goal here? Is it the people that got married and stayed married? Is that what we're judging this by? We want to know. I would actually like to know because I know Love Love island. That's, that's bans. And they never came on telly and told us it was an experiment. That one is just bands. So I'M not really expecting much from that one, but, yeah, Netflix. Where are you going with it? Or the production company? Where are you going with it? I'd like to know. I say this all in all to say, is there an aspect of escapism to watching other people's lives kind of play out on tv? [00:41:55] Speaker B: It always has been sincere. TV started. [00:41:58] Speaker A: Yeah, true. [00:42:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:01] Speaker A: Fair play. It's the gossip, isn't it? The need to know about Modern Dayton. [00:42:07] Speaker B: Sometimes it's not that. Sometimes you just need to know that you're doing good for your relationship. [00:42:11] Speaker A: Right. Like, yours is not as bad as the one on Delhi. [00:42:14] Speaker B: It's okay. [00:42:15] Speaker A: But it's yours as bad as the ones you see on TikTok. [00:42:17] Speaker B: But, you know, he bought me dinner on the way home. It's a win win. [00:42:20] Speaker A: It's a win win. [00:42:23] Speaker B: But, yeah, sometimes it makes you do appreciate who you're with, given what shows you do watch. Like, okay, it's not that bad. [00:42:32] Speaker A: True. It also maybe sometimes makes the audience kind of look at themselves as well. [00:42:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:39] Speaker A: Like, because I feel like a lot of women, I don't know what it's like from a man's perspective, but a lot of women are kind of looking inwards as well when they watch these shows. Like, oh, do I have those bad traits? Because I see a lot of that on TikTok as well. Like, kind of holding themselves accountable and also learning. I've kind of noticed that because certain women were, like, with the previous, most recent Love Is Blind, a lot of women didn't really see the issue with Tattoo and I don't remember her name, the. The one with the scandal that had the. That had two guys, Mason, Madison. A lot of women didn't see what the issue was that Madison had done. And then it was kind of explained to them and they were like, oh, oh, is it like, there was a lot of learning and kind of holding each other accountable. And I love that for us, learning our toxic behaviors and kind of being like, okay, I definitely need to change that. Because also I was kind of one of those people who were like, she just. She was just having fun. I don't see what's wrong with that. But you're in a show where you're meant to be vulnerable and you're meant to be open. And she wasn't exactly doing that. And she wasn't necessarily doing that in good faith sometimes, not all the time, which obviously there's an issue with and all that malarkey. So, yeah. Yeah, I think it kind of held a Mirror to myself as well, watching these TV shows. And it holds a mirror to society, I think, as well. But I think it's also kind of showed how vastly different men and women view relationships. [00:44:16] Speaker B: That's what I said about the. How it does show quite a lot of differences in how even the expectations of what relationships should hold. [00:44:25] Speaker A: Vastly different. Is there ever going to be a middle? Obviously people find a middle point. But do you think with society at large there would be a happy medium that everybody could be happy with to say, okay, this is kind of what a generic relationship should look like? [00:44:45] Speaker B: No, I don't think so. Because everyone's personality is very different. We all view things very differently. Unless you want to say everyone's very monolithic where we all see things in one way, black or white. It's impossible because in some most relationships there is a gray area and that's defined. [00:44:59] Speaker A: True. I do, however, think that every healthy relationship does have similar traits. [00:45:03] Speaker B: Yeah, they do have similar traits in. [00:45:05] Speaker A: Regards to transparency, treating with each other. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Respect and integrity in that regard. But in regards to how the actual. [00:45:12] Speaker A: Relationship is run, like the actual dynamic of the relationship, that's going to be vastly different. Of course. Yeah. There isn't one way to do a relationship anyway. Like what you're okay with in your relationship and what someone else is okay with in their relationship is just entirely different. I'm understanding that just now. Not that I'm understanding that just now, but I'm just. It's dawning on me just now that expectations like that relationship, I don't know that relationships can be diverse because I've kind of always said I don't want a generic relationship. Like, I've never seen myself in a. I don't know, whatever normative, heteronormative shit I see on TikTok. That ain't it. That's right. I'm just saying, like, so, like in my head, what does that look like? I guess, which is why I'm calling for more diversity and more diverse relationship nonsense on telly. Because some of us, we can't learn from real life because we don't go outside. We learn from telly. TV is our life. So fair enough. Dead ass. Anyway, that's everything from me. Should I read this? My little conclusion? [00:46:27] Speaker B: You wish to read it? [00:46:28] Speaker A: Okay. This is my little thesis. The conclusion that I came to when I was really having deep thoughts about this. Guys, it's so real because I really, really went down a rabbit hole. You really a bit. Right. So in conclusion, right? In a world where love Is streamed, judged and monetized. Dating shows have evolved from cheeky entertainment into full blown cultural barometers. Whether it's the Brits getting mugged off in the villa, Americans crying in pods, the Koreans navigating love with tact and tension. [00:47:00] Speaker B: Speaking of the Koreans, Single inferno. [00:47:03] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:47:03] Speaker B: You didn't finish single sofonal, did you not? [00:47:05] Speaker A: I didn't, but I saw enough. And your Japanese one, the dating in France, what's that one called? [00:47:15] Speaker B: Love Abroad. [00:47:16] Speaker A: Yes, that, that was, that was an interesting concept. [00:47:19] Speaker B: Love Abroad. I need another season of that. No, no, no, no, no. The concepts that you. [00:47:23] Speaker A: The concept is fantastic. [00:47:25] Speaker B: You're going to a whole new look, whole new country or city and you're gonna have to. All you have is a map. And eventually you will find someone who. [00:47:36] Speaker A: Is in the same who's also date. And you can recognize each other when you buy the map. [00:47:41] Speaker B: But if you don't have your map out, you don't know who you're looking at for. But eventually I think it's on like day three or day four, they host like a dinner. So even if you haven't met anyone. [00:47:49] Speaker A: So you will eventually meet. [00:47:51] Speaker B: You'll get a new pigeonhole where like you've been invited, you know, on certain dates and then they'll all meet together and they'll. [00:47:55] Speaker A: Or you can also post a letter to someone random. [00:47:58] Speaker B: But it's very much, I love the concept of it. I think it's very much naturally to how like things would have been done. [00:48:03] Speaker A: Like back in the day, quite unquote. Yeah. [00:48:06] Speaker B: Well, you had like, you write each other like a little love note like, like, do you want to go on a date? Yes. Fantastic. Do you want to let's meet on so and so date? And you have to hope that they're going to be there on the so and so date. And if you tell them at the post office near the fish shop. Why is like three fish shops and I go to one of them street A and you're on street C. What then you're thinking I'm ignoring you. No, I turned up. You just learn specifically in your directions. Yeah, that I was in. So that also shows you like how important communication skills is. Yeah, yeah. On the final day they get to choose one person to see and they have to write the location. And one of them put was like at the pr but they were in Nice and Nice has so many peers. So she went to one PR and he went to the other PR and they have, they only have like a certain time frame. [00:48:54] Speaker A: Yeah. To meet each other on the final day. [00:48:56] Speaker B: And eventually she clocked after two hours, but her man was somewhere else. [00:49:00] Speaker A: The other bit. Yeah. But then at the same time, if. [00:49:02] Speaker B: Her man thinks that she's moved, they might miss each other, depending on what route they go on. [00:49:06] Speaker A: Oh, my. [00:49:06] Speaker B: So it's just lucky that he stayed still in hope that she would. [00:49:09] Speaker A: She would come find him. Yeah. Wow. [00:49:11] Speaker B: So you need to know your person and you need to know how to communicate and you also need to, like, know, like social skills because you're on a whole new different country that you don't know the language of and you don't know the culture of. I think in regards to, like, social experiments, that is my favorite one. Not for the entertainment value of it, but just to see how they themselves not carry themselves, but how they navigate. [00:49:34] Speaker A: Navigate the world. [00:49:35] Speaker B: The world. The personal relationships and the romantic relationship. Because being by yourself in a whole different country, you don't speak the language of shock horror. Couldn't catch me. I mean, I'll definitely go, I'll carry someone with me. Do you know what I mean? [00:49:48] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But on this show, you don't get that. Yeah. [00:49:51] Speaker B: That's why I say as a social experiment, to be clear, Love Abroad, they haven't deemed it a social experiment. I'm just saying if it was to be a social experiment that I could see being done with the parameters, like, hey, these people don't know the language. They're in the whole. In the new country, all they have is a pen, paper and a map. [00:50:10] Speaker A: The most. The one that remind that I remember the most was the one that said, oh, yeah, he believes in love at first sight and he got pied. Got pied devastatedly. The. The American. The dancer in where. In the Love Abroad. Yeah, yeah. Remember the one that got the dancer guy? The American guy. Yeah. I thought that was funny. [00:50:32] Speaker B: He picked wrong. [00:50:34] Speaker A: Well, well, should have gone to love. His mind. [00:50:41] Speaker B: Is a great concept. Single sub. You have to be very much ingrained in Korean culture to. To get it. [00:50:47] Speaker A: Get it. Yeah. [00:50:48] Speaker B: If you're not into Korean culture, you. You won't get the concept of singles. [00:50:51] Speaker A: But it's interesting, though. I do think it's interesting. I've just like. It's just. I don't find it boring. I just. [00:51:00] Speaker B: I think when we spoke about it, you didn't. You found the concept of having live commentators very fascinating because in Western media, the commentators would be social media. [00:51:10] Speaker A: Oh, no, you misunderstand. That was throwing me off because that was kind of the first time they were doing it like that. [00:51:17] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:51:18] Speaker A: So usually what they do is something that they'll kind of let it go on and then the commentators will come in. But I think the most recent one that we watch, they were coming in at like, really random point. [00:51:29] Speaker B: That's the thing. Like, even in Singles Love Abroad, they do the same. [00:51:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that was the one we were watching. Yeah. [00:51:36] Speaker B: But even the singles of Burns, they do that. [00:51:37] Speaker A: But it's not as often, it's not as interruptive as though it breaks it down. Yeah. Because the one in a broad one, they came in a lot more than they come in in Singles Inferno. So singles in Vernon is fine. They kind of come in. Usually they'll come in when something huge has happened and obviously something huge happens a lot in the abroad one, so they've got to come in, but it just kind of threw me a little bit. [00:52:02] Speaker B: That's especially because it's a new concept as well. So they had to explain the parameters of the rules. [00:52:05] Speaker A: True. Yeah, true to true. True. [00:52:07] Speaker B: Because, like, first, when you see like the post box side, like, why is there so many post box. Why are they numbered sort of thing. [00:52:14] Speaker A: You just assume that they've been allocated to people. [00:52:16] Speaker B: Yeah. You know they've been allocated in photos. But did you know that they. Their phones are also kept in there, so they can't even access their phones. But they know where their phones are. Do you know how that would annoy me? Do you know my phone is in this pigeonhole and I can't even access it myself. [00:52:30] Speaker A: I'll hack security, turn off the cameras and I'll get my phone. [00:52:32] Speaker B: Ow. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Yeah, but yeah, rig it. [00:52:35] Speaker B: Because it wasn't even until like the last final day. They were like, when you go to your postbox tomorrow, you'll be given two keys instead of just one key. And you have the option, I let it open, the one on the left, which has your phone and all your electronic devices and your keys and stuff like that. Or you can ask, you can choose the left one and get your letters to see who wants to see you. Or if you want to go and see the person you've chosen. [00:52:57] Speaker A: So if nobody picks you at all, you just go home. [00:53:00] Speaker B: Well, you don't know. You only have one option. [00:53:02] Speaker A: Yeah. So say I pick the. To open my box. Yeah. And no one's wrote me a letter. [00:53:06] Speaker B: But you have the choice to go and see to your. Your safe spots in the hopes, oh, that's someone you might have written a letter to someone. So you have them the Option to hope the person. You. [00:53:16] Speaker A: What if I did then, and I was hoping that someone writes to me because I'm just a girl. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Then you just get your phone and you and your devices and you can. [00:53:23] Speaker A: That's it. Oh, wow. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Because you haven't written to anyone who knows the written. [00:53:26] Speaker A: You're less than, oh, what a sad, sad, sad girl. [00:53:30] Speaker B: Yes, indeed. That is a sad girl. [00:53:33] Speaker A: Oh, wow. But, yeah, that. I did find that interesting, but it's just. It wasn't quite. For me. [00:53:39] Speaker B: I enjoyed it. [00:53:41] Speaker A: They were too cute. [00:53:42] Speaker B: They were. [00:53:43] Speaker A: And cuteness is just sometimes a bit too much for me. [00:53:46] Speaker B: A couple sisters together, from what I can see. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Really? Yeah. [00:53:48] Speaker B: One of them I follow. [00:53:50] Speaker A: That's adorable. [00:53:51] Speaker B: So adorable, Jenna. It's like a cuteness overload. [00:53:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Anyway, I believe that's all we've got to say about Dayton. Do you have any dating advice for people out there? [00:54:01] Speaker B: No. Would you go on Dating show? [00:54:03] Speaker A: Of course I would. [00:54:04] Speaker B: Which one? Preference? [00:54:06] Speaker A: I don't have a preference. [00:54:09] Speaker B: Money is money, huh? [00:54:13] Speaker A: No, I would never. I would never do such a thing. Absolutely not. I would have completely altruistic intentions. Yes. If you ever went on one, which one would you go on? [00:54:39] Speaker B: If I had to go on which one would I go on? Temptation Island. Because it would just be a holiday. [00:54:46] Speaker A: With a partner or as a single. [00:54:49] Speaker B: Actually, no, not Tatisha. [00:54:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:54:52] Speaker B: Forget that one. [00:54:57] Speaker A: I'd probably go in Love is Blind. That's the safest option. [00:55:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it is the safest option. [00:55:03] Speaker A: Like, safe in the sense of just don't be a dick, you know? But, like, I feel like with Love island, there's also the idea, like, people avoiding you out if they find you boring or whatever. I find that daunting because people are actually judging me. Literally. That's daunting. People that go on there, I feel like they've got the confidence of. [00:55:23] Speaker B: You best have confidence. [00:55:26] Speaker A: So anyway, yeah, that's pretty much it. Are there any dating shows you guys would go on? Which ones do you think? Oh, maybe. Are you the one? [00:55:35] Speaker B: Are you the one? [00:55:36] Speaker A: I think that's still going on, isn't it? I don't know. [00:55:39] Speaker B: I don't know. There's too many of them. [00:55:40] Speaker A: There's so many. [00:55:41] Speaker B: Too many. Cut it down. [00:55:45] Speaker A: Cut it down. Yeah. [00:55:47] Speaker B: There's only so much TV time I can allocate to dating shows. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Okay. Would you go on maths? [00:55:50] Speaker B: Right at first sight. Yeah. No. It's an absolute no. Because why, if I get, like, picked with a psycho, what then? If you're telling me I've potentially been coerced this day on this damn show, I'm stuck with a psycho. [00:56:09] Speaker A: Fair play. Fair. Fair play. All right, so the question that we leave you guys with to kind of round this whole thing up is do you guys think dating shows are helping us understand love better? Or are they just repackaging it in a way that we can binge and kind of just turning. Turning it into a trend, like a bingeable, monetized media thing that we kind of just kind of like the Real Housewives type type stuff, but just reality shows. Yeah, that will be interesting. So anyway, yeah. Onto the next red light. Green light. One piece. Right. So we have the main crew. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Okay. So we're judging them based up to Throwback, Nothing past Robot. [00:56:58] Speaker A: Up to Thriller Bar. [00:56:59] Speaker B: Nothing past Robot. [00:57:00] Speaker A: Nothing past Monkey D. Luffy. [00:57:02] Speaker B: I love him. Courage, passion, friendship. Why we picked that picture of a Sanji? My boy. No, please. [00:57:10] Speaker A: I think that is a dope picture. That's him looking serious. What do you want him looking with, like, love heart in his eyes? [00:57:16] Speaker B: I like him being goofy. He makes me smile. [00:57:20] Speaker A: Fair play fair. [00:57:21] Speaker B: But Luffy, so far, is a green light. Sometimes amber for his very brash decision making. Sometimes he doesn't think most. Sometimes he doesn't think things through. But he's always there for his teammates. He's always there for his friends. And he's always thinking about their best interest. Especially, like, for where I am. When he stood up for Nami. When he went to the village. Yeah. Nami's hometown. And then when we see Robin's backstory and his friendship with Zoro and how these two have, like, a bromance going on. Luffy, he. He does it for his friends. And for that, he's a green light. [00:57:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Is. Yeah, he learns. This is kind of after this, it grows. It grows big time. But yeah, sprinkle of amber in there, but green. All in all, Zorro, That's a green. [00:58:12] Speaker B: Well, I'm not his decision making. [00:58:14] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. [00:58:16] Speaker B: Zorro, love of my life. Green. Because as I said, he's just. [00:58:21] Speaker A: I mean, his hair is green. His pies are green. I mean, he's Ashura. Look. What more. What more do you want? That man is a green flag. We're walking. Red flag. But a green flag nonetheless. He's very. [00:58:34] Speaker B: He's too green to be. [00:58:36] Speaker A: To be ready Channel This. This Azura. [00:58:39] Speaker B: Yes. Up to where I am right now. [00:58:41] Speaker A: Zuri is a green flag. But, like, I feel like he's more of a traditional man that Is very true. [00:58:47] Speaker B: I get the sense of that. So he has a lot of integrity. [00:58:49] Speaker A: He does have a lot of integrity. Okay. He's a grim fag. Nami, my cat burglar. [00:58:55] Speaker B: I love Nami because she embodies. [00:58:59] Speaker A: The. [00:58:59] Speaker B: Level of pride and confidence that I aspire to have. [00:59:03] Speaker A: She has a love of money that I understand. [00:59:06] Speaker B: We do different things from that. [00:59:11] Speaker A: She is green. [00:59:13] Speaker B: Nami is. But yeah, I just need her to have a bit of a backbone. [00:59:18] Speaker A: It's just a girl. She's a navigator. What do you want from her? Robin, Free my girl. She. She controls the weather. She's just a girl. [00:59:25] Speaker B: She controls the weather. [00:59:27] Speaker A: She controls the weather. What's up? [00:59:31] Speaker B: See, I told you, Amber. [00:59:32] Speaker A: You see, when he did that thing that he did in Water seven, I've just. I've not looked at him the same, but I understand where he's come from. But Ambar, still. That's your captain, bro. [00:59:43] Speaker B: Damn right. [00:59:44] Speaker A: Kind of doing that. [00:59:45] Speaker B: I'm Captain Usopp and I'm returning. And then they were like, can't hear anything. Do you hear anything? [00:59:50] Speaker A: No, no, no. [00:59:51] Speaker B: Until he was on his knees apologizing for his stupidity. Damn right. Apologize on your knees because. What do you mean? What do you mean? [01:00:00] Speaker A: No, I think. [01:00:01] Speaker B: No, that level of disrespect also. Apology on your knees because. What do you mean? You're shouting at me. Stood up with all your pride, saying, I only did it because I was the captain. Deputy Captain. Off. Apologize to me properly. [01:00:16] Speaker A: Yeah, Sanji. [01:00:19] Speaker B: As I said, some respect to my little boy. Sanji. He's just a perv. [01:00:26] Speaker A: Just. Wow, that's diabolical. He wants to see the all blue. [01:00:36] Speaker B: You know where I am right now? He's telling this other character. [01:00:41] Speaker A: Absolutely. [01:00:42] Speaker B: Yeah. That he wants the see through. Like, he's so. He has a. His hatred towards him. [01:00:47] Speaker A: He's so pure. [01:00:49] Speaker B: It's because he wants the cc. The fruit that he has. [01:00:52] Speaker A: He has. [01:00:55] Speaker B: And Sanjay was like, you ate the clear, clear fruit. That was my passion, to eat the clear, clear food. And he was like, I'm gonna use it so much to help. And then his inner voice comes out, and his inner voice has me on the floor. His inner voice shouts, look at Nami while she's invite baby. I said, Sanji. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. I meant I want to save and help people. I was like, wow. Imagine having pure hatred towards a man because he ate the fruit that you wanted to eat. [01:01:21] Speaker A: You gotta love a constant. A man that is consistent. And Sanji is nothing if not consistent. He's got a one track mind. Tony. Tony. Chopper. Chopper. [01:01:35] Speaker B: Chopper's green. He's so cute. [01:01:36] Speaker A: He's adorable. Honestly, when he loses control, it's just so sad. But he's a green. [01:01:40] Speaker B: The Chopper outfit was still for the baby. [01:01:42] Speaker A: I know. Adorable. My heart melted if I ever had a baby. I'm gaining him a hat. [01:01:47] Speaker B: That whole outfit. They're gonna be waddling around in that massive jar. [01:01:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Like with a little reindeer thing. [01:01:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:54] Speaker A: Cute. Damn right. Nico. Robin. [01:01:56] Speaker B: Oh, my girl. Robin. Green, you've had a hard life. You don't deserve to be Red on Amber. Because you've had your share of difficulties. [01:02:04] Speaker A: Amber still, why that much red? I don't know. All she's done is try to survive. To be honest. But yeah. Would you not try this, Amber? Still, she would have let Crocodile just do what Crocodile wanted to do. She would have done nothing. And so many people would have died. [01:02:23] Speaker B: Why is a crocodile when it came down to it? [01:02:25] Speaker A: Well, if not for the introduction of these lot. [01:02:29] Speaker B: Okay. [01:02:30] Speaker A: She would have always found a way to survive. If other people had to die, that didn't matter to her. As long as she survived. Obviously, she learned from that. Right? She's not the same person anymore. But just because of that. Only. Only. She's like a greenish Amber. [01:02:46] Speaker B: I haven't. [01:02:47] Speaker A: Her Brook is an Amber. [01:02:49] Speaker B: I am halfway through filling Brock. So I only know Brooke. As far as I know, I love him. [01:02:53] Speaker A: All you know about him is his panties. So that makes him an Amber. [01:02:56] Speaker B: That's not true. I know about his shadow. I love his shadow. His shadow? Samurai kind of a. But I love him nonetheless because he's got so much pride. [01:03:05] Speaker A: He becomes a rock star. [01:03:06] Speaker B: Brooke's shadow. [01:03:07] Speaker A: No, Brooke. Ah. Brooke becomes a rock star. Fantastic. [01:03:11] Speaker B: Well done to him. [01:03:12] Speaker A: And Frankie. [01:03:13] Speaker B: Frankie, like Sanji, is just a perv. [01:03:16] Speaker A: No, no. He's a different type of perv. [01:03:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a different. He likes to show everything he does. Frankie likes. [01:03:24] Speaker A: He just doesn't wear trousers. [01:03:26] Speaker B: Both men are so proud of it as well. You know, in different aspects. Oh, my goodness. [01:03:31] Speaker A: If anything, Brooke and Sanji are pervs. [01:03:35] Speaker B: That's true. [01:03:37] Speaker A: Frankie's just a weirdo. [01:03:39] Speaker B: No, he's not a weirdo. [01:03:41] Speaker A: Yes, he is. He wears. He doesn't wear trousers. [01:03:43] Speaker B: He just likes to show it all. [01:03:46] Speaker A: Freaky. Freaky Frankie. [01:03:47] Speaker B: Damn right. [01:03:49] Speaker A: I'll give him a green. [01:03:50] Speaker B: He is a green. [01:03:51] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. So we're going to the Blue East Blue saga. [01:03:56] Speaker B: Okay. [01:03:57] Speaker A: Right. So, Shanks, what you know of him so far. What do you think? Green? [01:04:00] Speaker B: He's helped out Luffy quite a lot. [01:04:02] Speaker A: What I know of him so far. Amber. How are you gonna see a child at a bar and just have him eat something that he's not supposed to be? Honest. He didn't know. [01:04:09] Speaker B: He didn't give him the fruit. [01:04:12] Speaker A: But he put it there. And you know this kid is naughty and like. How did you lose your goddamn arm as well? Freaking greenish. Amber Makino. That's the owner of the bar that Luffy always hung out at. [01:04:27] Speaker B: I can't remember her. So it is what it is. Shoe. [01:04:30] Speaker A: Shoe. She's a green Buggy. Red. [01:04:34] Speaker B: Don't like you. [01:04:35] Speaker A: You don't like Buggy? [01:04:36] Speaker B: Don't like you. No. [01:04:37] Speaker A: I love Buggy. [01:04:40] Speaker B: I love him. [01:04:41] Speaker A: I hate him so much. But I love him so much. He's ridiculous. He's jealous. Especially of Shanks. He is filled with this whole it should have been me esque jealousy thing between him and Shanks. You don't know the story yet. I don't think I know the story. You do. [01:05:03] Speaker B: I think it's when they ate the fruits and went separate ways. Is that Buggy's story? [01:05:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:07] Speaker B: On the same cruise ship together. [01:05:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Right. And that's why he doesn't really like him that much. And he feels like he should have gone with their captain. But anyway. He feels like he should be at the same level as Shanks. But eventually it gets there. But yeah. Buggy. Buggy's a red mudgy and cabbage. Those are Buggy spoons. [01:05:30] Speaker B: Very unmerable. [01:05:34] Speaker A: Amber Red. Because they follow Buggy. So obviously. Kaya. Usopp's girlfriend. Amber. So annoying. [01:05:42] Speaker B: So spineless. [01:05:43] Speaker A: Captain Kuro. Red. That's the villain in the. In that arc. Which arc in the Kaya? The one with the. [01:05:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. The one who's kept a captive. [01:05:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Red. Django. He was in Captain Kura's thing. And he did the hypnotizing and anyway end up hypnotizing himself. Right? Yeah. I think he even became a. A Marine as well. I think. I think so. [01:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:13] Speaker A: Oh. Maybe he was a Marine. I don't remember how. Which. Which way that goes. Anyway. Those are pirates. Amber. The kids. And they were following some grown ass older teen that had no idea what he wanted to do with his lives. [01:06:27] Speaker B: So would you not put us up as an Amazon for leading children? [01:06:30] Speaker A: Did I give it us up a Green? [01:06:32] Speaker B: I gave you ammo because he was spineless. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I said because of the thing he did with in water 7. No way he was going to get a green. [01:06:39] Speaker B: Well, then I'm going to him because. Why are you leaving a group of children? [01:06:43] Speaker A: Village champion. Ze. That's the chef. [01:06:51] Speaker B: I like him. He sacrificed himself for st. [01:06:53] Speaker A: He's a green. Yeah, Don Gree. Red. He was the one who they saved. And then he came back and tried to fight them. Remember at bar? Remember this guy, Jin? He came in and he was dying. Yeah, right. And he gave him food and then he went to go get his captain. Oh, him, him. Don't worry. [01:07:17] Speaker B: At Sanji's place. [01:07:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Red flag. Obviously. Jin, Amber, Amber, this is Captain Morgan. He was earlier on. I was meant to put him earlier. You know the guy Axe Hand? The one who was gonna kill Zorro. Yeah, Red flag. Obviously. Full body. Red flag. He was the. The marine person who came to Baratier and was trying to do like. He knew the food menu. He was with a girl, remember? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And Helmeppo, that's Morgan's son. Him and Cobby ended up joining the marines, remember? Yeah, yeah. He gets a red. We get to them. Amber. [01:07:58] Speaker B: What's his name? Grandfather. [01:08:00] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [01:08:01] Speaker B: Yeah. That's where they're currently training. [01:08:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Cobbies are green. Helmet's an Amber. Still. Because it's still a kind of comedy. Alvido, is there something to say with. [01:08:10] Speaker B: Our, like our rating system? We put three people in Amber because the cowards. [01:08:18] Speaker A: I didn't put us up. Because as Amber, because he was a coward. I mean, that adds to it as well. But mainly because of what he did in water 7. Because the thing is with that, he's trying to be better. Right. So I'm not going to give him like, so is a Mopo as well. But also Mepo was an. He was a spoiled kid. And now he's, you know, on his roads to recovery. But he's still kind of annoying. So he gets a number for me. Who else did I say was a coward? [01:08:50] Speaker B: I said rewind. [01:08:51] Speaker A: What? [01:08:53] Speaker B: So I said, you suck. [01:08:54] Speaker A: Right. [01:08:54] Speaker B: And then I also said Kaya. [01:08:56] Speaker A: Ah. Oh, you said she was spineless. Yeah, no, I said she was annoying. [01:09:00] Speaker B: Okay, so. [01:09:02] Speaker A: Okay, you know what? Copy. At first I thought was annoying, but he grew on me. [01:09:07] Speaker B: He did. Actually. I don't find him annoying. I found him very realistic as a character. [01:09:13] Speaker A: Yeah, but annoying. [01:09:16] Speaker B: He does grow underneath. At least his grandfather. [01:09:19] Speaker A: Alvida. Red flag. [01:09:21] Speaker B: I can't remember her. [01:09:24] Speaker A: She was the big lady that Luffy defeats first. And then she comes back in Log Town with. With Buggy and they try to get him now that she's in the fruit. And like, she's not skinny. Yeah, she's not. I guess she's not that memorable. Go Mary. How would you rate? Green Flag, obviously. Poor Go Mary. [01:09:46] Speaker B: Fuck off of the Ferridor boat. I hated that. That was a conclusion storyline of the guy. Mary. [01:09:53] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's. It's very heartfelt, though. [01:09:57] Speaker B: Just get rid of the ship and get a new one. Right. [01:09:59] Speaker A: Shit, man, that's cold. Thousand Sunny obviously gets a green for me. That. That ship is beautiful. Moving on to Arlong Park. [01:10:10] Speaker B: Very long nose. [01:10:12] Speaker A: Red flag. Of course. What a villain. Nojiko. [01:10:16] Speaker B: Green is the greenest sisters. [01:10:18] Speaker A: She's adorable. Bellemare Green as well. [01:10:21] Speaker B: All she wants to do is raise children. [01:10:22] Speaker A: What a big heart. Honestly. Hatchy. [01:10:25] Speaker B: Oh, the fish man. [01:10:26] Speaker A: Yeah, he's an umber. [01:10:28] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [01:10:29] Speaker A: Shoe. [01:10:30] Speaker B: He was an optimist, wasn't he? [01:10:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:10:31] Speaker B: He's octopus with a basket on his shoulder. [01:10:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. He's very funny. You'll see him again. [01:10:38] Speaker B: Do I? [01:10:38] Speaker A: Yeah, you will chew Red. Very annoying. Korobi. I don't remember him much, but I think he was also a shark type. I think he fought Zoro. I would. No, Sanji. I don't know. Anyway, this guy. The guy with the spinny thing. Ah, Green Genso. Yeah, okay. Logtown Smoker. [01:11:03] Speaker B: Green Monkey. [01:11:05] Speaker A: D Dragon. [01:11:06] Speaker B: I've only seen his backstory. So now he's green. Until I know more. [01:11:09] Speaker A: I agree. For now, he's Green Teshigi. [01:11:12] Speaker B: Oh, until she knew who Zoro was, she was besties with him. [01:11:17] Speaker A: She was smitten. [01:11:18] Speaker B: Yeah. And then she's like, you're a criminal. I cannot fall in love with criminals. Do they have, like, haters to lovers Troph? [01:11:25] Speaker A: You know what? A lot of people are pushing for it, but she's too young for him. [01:11:28] Speaker B: How old is she? [01:11:29] Speaker A: I don't know. She's a child, isn't she? I don't know. A lot of people like the ship though, okay? [01:11:35] Speaker B: If they do end up having a lover's suit. Enemies to lovers trope. I would love to see how that plays out so far. Because all I know from now is, like, she did have a crush, but that crush broken as soon as she realized he was a criminal. Another reason she didn't realize because she wasn't wearing her glasses at the time. [01:11:48] Speaker A: Right? Dorian Bourgin Karmada. The. The giants. The fighting giants for 100 years. [01:11:57] Speaker B: I can't remember what they're. [01:11:58] Speaker A: Honestly. Alabaster Cover up. [01:12:02] Speaker B: That was. [01:12:03] Speaker A: He gets a number the father. Yeah. [01:12:05] Speaker B: He was very passive. [01:12:06] Speaker A: He did try, but Amber still Crocodile. Red. [01:12:11] Speaker B: Crocodile had. He had energy. [01:12:14] Speaker A: He did have energy. He had. He had energy. Also the person playing him. Our seed. He will always be our seed. [01:12:23] Speaker B: That's a good point. When I come back, I'm thinking I'm gonna catch up on my neck. On my one piece. I got time to watch your one piece now. [01:12:30] Speaker A: You do. You do. And Mr. Three Red Flag and his candles. Yeah. [01:12:38] Speaker B: What a slow and paper was it died, honestly. [01:12:41] Speaker A: And he's not dead. No, no. [01:12:42] Speaker B: I mean his power. [01:12:43] Speaker A: Oh, he's. Yeah. Oh, God. Mr. One Red. Yeah. Crazy powers, though. I saw something online recently about how he turns every part of him to still. And that includes. I mean, Elika. Sneeze. No, no, no. Oh, my God. I'm just saying things nightmares are made of. No. Anyway. Bon Clay. I want to give him a Green. But he's gonna be an Amber. [01:13:20] Speaker B: He was funny, though. [01:13:21] Speaker A: He was funny. He's an Amber. Yeah, he's an Amber. Because I liked his part. And I liked him. Pel. [01:13:27] Speaker B: Oh, he sacrificed himself. [01:13:29] Speaker A: The green chakra. I agree. [01:13:32] Speaker B: I can't remember what he did again. [01:13:33] Speaker A: He was the other one of Pearl. One of the Guardians. It was kind of annoying, but Amber. Vivi and Karoo, Green. [01:13:42] Speaker B: She tried her best for her. [01:13:43] Speaker A: She really did. And so did Karoo. They both get green. Ms. Double Finger, the one that fought Nami. The spiky lady. [01:13:51] Speaker B: She's an Anvil. I don't hate her. [01:13:53] Speaker A: No. The way Nami defeated her, I just thought was so funny. Baroque Rock Agent Special Shout out. All of them. Red Flag. Moving on to Sky Island. Now, I'm going to be mainly quiet here because I only remember the main people. The rest I would just put on you. If you still remember them. [01:14:11] Speaker B: Okay. [01:14:13] Speaker A: Mutt Blanc. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Cricket Mont Blanc is a Green. Oh, he went to a country. A whole city in the sky. [01:14:20] Speaker A: That's Noland. This is Cricket. The one who. So, yeah, he gets a green. Gan4. I remember him as a grumpy man. [01:14:31] Speaker B: No, he's an Amber. Because he was. His people were fighting the natives of another of a country that he's. They found when they landed. He's an Amber. Okay, because why were you trying to invade the country? [01:14:43] Speaker A: And now Red. Yeah, of course I use that picture specifically because that was when he was getting knocked out. Wiper. I found it very annoying. I remember that. [01:14:53] Speaker B: His intentions are very pure. [01:14:55] Speaker A: Yeah, but he was annoying, right? Or is it just being. [01:14:58] Speaker B: I think these treatments of his cross Crew and team teammates. Wasn't always the best, but I get it. That war. You don't have always a time and place to be polite and gentle. Because war itself is cruel in nature. [01:15:10] Speaker A: True. So what would you give him? [01:15:12] Speaker B: I think, knowing his intentions, I'm gonna put him in the green. But if I didn't know his intention, I was just watching it as how he was treating people and how he was conducting the war. He'll be an Amber. [01:15:22] Speaker A: Okay. I do not remember Pagaya. [01:15:24] Speaker B: Pagaya is Connius's father. [01:15:26] Speaker A: Father. [01:15:27] Speaker B: Yeah. He's a Green because he tries to lead Connis on a correct task. Because Connis does end up leading the straw hats to Nell. Because anyone who's an outsider has to get sent into the forest to get tried. [01:15:41] Speaker A: Oh, right. Yeah, yeah. She's the one who led them to the forest because. Yeah. [01:15:45] Speaker B: Otherwise she was going to get punished by God. [01:15:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. Anconis Amber for that reason. Fair play, Bellamy. But here we are. So quick. Connis, Amber. You gave the four priests already. And green, right? We've got water, seven, iceberg. [01:16:09] Speaker B: I like green. [01:16:10] Speaker A: Okay. I would have said more greenish. Ambar. Because of how we treated Frankie, Quote, unquote. [01:16:15] Speaker B: He was only doing it to protect what he was told to protect. [01:16:17] Speaker A: Understandable. [01:16:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:18] Speaker A: Paulie. Paulie's a Green. [01:16:21] Speaker B: He has integrity. [01:16:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:16:23] Speaker B: Which is great. [01:16:23] Speaker A: Copper. Right? [01:16:24] Speaker B: Green. Tom. When she first transforms into a mermaid. And Sanji is very upset because at first he sees what he thinks a mermaid should look like, and then his eyes open properly and. [01:16:36] Speaker A: You know what's so funny? Sanji finally gets to the world of the mermaids. [01:16:41] Speaker B: Is he happy? Overjoyed. [01:16:45] Speaker A: It's rather unfortunate is all I'm gonna say. I mean, he does get to see them, but Type of baby. [01:16:51] Speaker B: All he wanted to see was a mermaid. [01:16:54] Speaker A: Tom, green. CP9. [01:16:58] Speaker B: Red. [01:16:59] Speaker A: Spandam red. If there's anything deeper than red, he'll be. [01:17:04] Speaker B: It's so weak as well. Honestly, you have no reason to be that with the way you are. [01:17:12] Speaker A: Disgusting. Chimney and Gunbang. [01:17:16] Speaker B: Definitely. [01:17:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Green got Amber still, but green and Aokiji. [01:17:26] Speaker B: Amber. [01:17:27] Speaker A: I agree. For now. Now's the main arc 3. Le bark Gekko. Mario. Red. Red. He's so annoying. [01:17:42] Speaker B: Absydom hits an Anvar. Just like Sanji. He's just a fur. In fact, Nami is currently unconscious because of Absalom. And each time they see her face, they're like, is this an angel? No, no, no. It's just Nami. And then they're like, is it a fairy? No, it's just Nami. And they're like, her skin's so fair. And Sandy was like, yeah, her skin was so fair. I had to actually rub my eyes to make sure I was looking at the right person. And what about her hair? [01:18:09] Speaker A: So pretty and fair. [01:18:10] Speaker B: I was like. And then. Absolutely. Wait, we're enemies. Why am I being best friends with you? Because we both like the same girl, Dr. Hogback. [01:18:18] Speaker A: Red. Red. I agree. Perona. [01:18:20] Speaker B: Amber. [01:18:21] Speaker A: I'm tempted to give her a green. What? [01:18:23] Speaker B: Because she's funny? [01:18:24] Speaker A: Yeah. And for later on as well. But yeah, Greenish amber. Victorian Amber. Amber. Always so annoying. [01:18:34] Speaker B: He's just a shadow. [01:18:36] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:18:36] Speaker B: Luke has no memory of his past life. He tried to punch the air with gum and gummer. And then he was like, I swear my arm could stretch. I was like, you're not Luffy. What do you mean stretch? [01:18:45] Speaker A: Oh, no, I didn't put his name, but I think that's Haguro or Hakumo. [01:18:52] Speaker B: I think he. Brooks of shadow. [01:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But yeah. Anyway, the zombie generals. [01:18:59] Speaker B: Because it's not, you know, they're just following orders. [01:19:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Same thing with the animals as well. And special shout out to Lola. I don't think you've met her yet. Lola. [01:19:06] Speaker B: She's a hippo. Yeah. Yeah. She loves Absalom. [01:19:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:08] Speaker B: It's one sided. [01:19:12] Speaker A: And that is it for. What's that segment called again? Red light. [01:19:18] Speaker B: Green light. [01:19:18] Speaker A: Red light, Green light. Onto this or that. [01:19:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:23] Speaker A: Should we think it before you go first or. [01:19:27] Speaker B: Wait, we didn't count, did we? [01:19:28] Speaker A: Know it's on three. Always. [01:19:29] Speaker B: Well, I didn't count my head. [01:19:31] Speaker A: One, two, three. There we go. All right. [01:19:35] Speaker B: I didn't count in my head. Did you count on your head? [01:19:39] Speaker A: I just know. [01:19:41] Speaker B: Well, fantastic. [01:19:43] Speaker A: It's just muscle memory. I don't know. [01:19:47] Speaker B: This week's theme is DC Heroes to counter last week's theme of Marvel. [01:19:51] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's our favourite characters. [01:19:53] Speaker B: So Aquaman versus Joker. [01:19:57] Speaker A: Joker. [01:19:58] Speaker B: Why not Aquaman? [01:20:02] Speaker A: Sorry. [01:20:04] Speaker B: The Joker. [01:20:04] Speaker A: Death. Simple as that. [01:20:07] Speaker B: Or Damien as in Robin. [01:20:11] Speaker A: Damien's funny. Oh, damn. His conception is so funny. But Joker. [01:20:23] Speaker B: Joker or Wonder Woman? [01:20:27] Speaker A: Joker. [01:20:28] Speaker B: Joker or Bane? I love Bane. [01:20:31] Speaker A: I do like Bane. [01:20:34] Speaker B: I love Bane. [01:20:36] Speaker A: Joker. I do like Bane, though. [01:20:39] Speaker B: Joker or Starfire? [01:20:41] Speaker A: Starfire. [01:20:43] Speaker B: Starfire or Batman? [01:20:45] Speaker A: Batman. [01:20:46] Speaker B: Batman or Lex Luthor? [01:20:48] Speaker A: Batman. I'm so sorry. Batman or Lex Luthor? Batman. [01:20:53] Speaker B: Batman or Catwoman? [01:20:55] Speaker A: Oh, and that's Cinnamon or Kyle as well. Bruce Wayne. Bruce. Bruce Wayne. [01:21:08] Speaker B: Batman or Harley Quinn? [01:21:11] Speaker A: Batman. I do like Harley Quinn, though. [01:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah, he's a cool One Ivy Queen or Poison Ivy? Not on your list. I'm just curious. [01:21:19] Speaker A: Poison Ivy? [01:21:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Batman or Superman? These were on your list this time. [01:21:26] Speaker A: Now, Superman. [01:21:28] Speaker B: Superman or Green Lantern? [01:21:30] Speaker A: Superman. [01:21:31] Speaker B: Superman versus Robin. As in Nightwing. [01:21:34] Speaker A: Superman. [01:21:35] Speaker B: Superman versus The Flash. [01:21:36] Speaker A: Superman. [01:21:38] Speaker B: Oh, Poison Ivy is on your thing. Superman versus Poison Ivy. [01:21:41] Speaker A: Superman. I mean, I like Poison Ivy. I really do. [01:21:44] Speaker B: And there we go. We have a winner. Surprise. [01:21:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I like Superman. Down. Clarky is a real thing. All right, your turn. Batman. Superman. [01:22:01] Speaker B: Batman. [01:22:02] Speaker A: Batman. Joker. [01:22:05] Speaker B: See, this is where it gets techy, because there is a secret comic book where Batman does have a gun. And he's just as. He's not corrupt, but he's just you know, wayward. Just a bit. [01:22:20] Speaker A: Just a bit. [01:22:21] Speaker B: That's what I said. [01:22:22] Speaker A: When Batman goes bad, he goes real bad. [01:22:25] Speaker B: For the good of gossip. [01:22:27] Speaker A: Wasn't doing it for the good of Gotham. [01:22:30] Speaker B: Nonetheless. [01:22:31] Speaker A: So who you picking? [01:22:33] Speaker B: Joker. [01:22:34] Speaker A: Okay. Oh, Batman. Damn. Joker. Wonder Woman. [01:22:37] Speaker B: Joker. Joker. [01:22:38] Speaker A: Green Arrow. [01:22:39] Speaker B: Joker. [01:22:40] Speaker A: You know, when I saw Green Arrow in yours, I said, really? [01:22:43] Speaker B: I actually like. No. So I'm basing this on the DC Universe that was in sky. Green Arrow. So I like that storyline. I do. I did like it. [01:22:51] Speaker A: I did. Preferred Diggs or Diggy. Yeah, I just. I couldn't stand Oliver. My God. You said Green Arrow. [01:23:01] Speaker B: No. Joker. No. Yeah, I said Joker. [01:23:06] Speaker A: Really? Yeah. And then we got to stuff. Oh, okay. Joker. Starfire. [01:23:10] Speaker B: I like Starfire in the original thingy. Teen Titans. And also Blackfire, her sister. Oh, she was a. But I should try to marry her off. Did you see? [01:23:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:23:23] Speaker B: Oh, what Traitorous behavior from a sister as well. Imagine. Ops everywhere. [01:23:28] Speaker A: I know. Quite literally, you know, but actually, I'm. [01:23:33] Speaker B: Gonna stick with Star of Pick Starfire for this one because she is cool and she. I like her powers. [01:23:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I like her powers as well. [01:23:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:40] Speaker A: Starfire, Black Canary. Same thing. Same Green Arrow universe, right? [01:23:45] Speaker B: No, I like Black Canary from the original Justice League. [01:23:48] Speaker A: Okay. All right. [01:23:49] Speaker B: Did you watch the original Justice League? [01:23:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:23:52] Speaker B: But Black Canary is a good. [01:23:53] Speaker A: No, she was. Yeah, yeah. But in thingy. No. [01:23:56] Speaker B: Okay. Starfire. [01:23:59] Speaker A: Okay. Starfire. Talia Ghulia Ghoul. [01:24:02] Speaker B: I love her storyline. She's a queen. [01:24:04] Speaker A: She's a. Yeah. When I saw her, I was like. [01:24:06] Speaker B: Damn, I forgot that Talia, she's the Queen of Queens. Honestly, in the underworld, she is. [01:24:13] Speaker A: Talia. Catwoman. [01:24:16] Speaker B: See, Catwoman is just a burglar. Talia has goals and ambitions. [01:24:19] Speaker A: Fair play. Talia. Bumblebee. [01:24:22] Speaker B: Bumblebee is a cool girl. Talia. [01:24:24] Speaker A: Talia. Deathstroke. [01:24:26] Speaker B: Talia. [01:24:27] Speaker A: Talia Aperman. [01:24:30] Speaker B: She's just a fish man. I joke, but I just ride for Talia that hard? Because honestly, Talia's had a hard life. [01:24:38] Speaker A: He's just a fish man. [01:24:40] Speaker B: Okay, after alum Hawk. [01:24:47] Speaker A: Talia or Poison Ivy? [01:24:50] Speaker B: Talia. [01:24:51] Speaker A: Talia Or Raven? [01:24:54] Speaker B: Raven's fantastic though. [01:24:55] Speaker A: She is. [01:24:56] Speaker B: But her father's evil. Oh, her father's so evil. [01:24:59] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:25:00] Speaker B: Oh, but she's powerful. [01:25:02] Speaker A: Very. [01:25:02] Speaker B: And she can fight. [01:25:04] Speaker A: And she's mouthy, too. She's got it all. [01:25:08] Speaker B: Except from a legion of people who will die for her. Talia. Bro. Okay, what? Tell me who's going to die for Raven. [01:25:18] Speaker A: The Beast guy. He locks her down. [01:25:21] Speaker B: Okay, we got Beast Boy. She's a Beast Guy Forever guy. [01:25:27] Speaker A: He's literally called Beast Boy. I know, right? Sorry, I just wasn't sure if it was boy or something else. I was just like. Yeah, I'm sure there needs to be there somewhere. Talia or Killer Frost. [01:25:43] Speaker B: Talia. [01:25:44] Speaker A: Okay, there you have it. Talia is your winner. [01:25:46] Speaker B: She's such a fantastic character. So well written. [01:25:49] Speaker A: Yeah, she is. [01:25:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:51] Speaker A: All right, so on to the final segment that we've got. It's kind of a this or that, but it's more a ship it or skip it. So the idea behind this is I'll say two names and she'll tell me if she ships them or she'd like to skip them. So Gojo Satoru and Wanda Maximoff. [01:26:11] Speaker B: I think they'll bounce each other off because Wanda can be very chaotic, but Gojo is very laid back. But if it's too powerful couple, they'll be licking their power couple. Their powers would go off and their children's powers. [01:26:22] Speaker A: Oh, my God, I should be with white hair. And then they could have a little. What's that? What's the name of that boy in my hero academia with the half red hair and half, like, white hair? That would be so fun. Dodoriki. That's it. But yeah, that would be so interesting. Okay, next is Geralt Zoicha and Yoriichi. [01:26:48] Speaker B: Haven'T watched the Witcher, so I'm gonna skip. [01:26:49] Speaker A: Oh, okay. I would. I totally ship that. Totally ship that. [01:26:54] Speaker B: Okay. [01:26:55] Speaker A: Homelander and Cersei Lannister haven't watched the boys either. [01:27:01] Speaker B: You know, I haven't watched the boys, though. [01:27:02] Speaker A: Okay, but they would be. They would be like, first there would be Maga. Made in Heaven. [01:27:10] Speaker B: Wow. [01:27:11] Speaker A: Incest. The King of the Incels. I mean, what more. I don't think Cersei would be really into it. But if she was, you know, I want to skip it, to be honest. But they would make a terrifying couple. [01:27:28] Speaker B: Okay. [01:27:29] Speaker A: Anya, Forger and Grogu. And okay, I would like to give a thingy of imagine that they're all like the same age. Forget the age. But not what. [01:27:41] Speaker B: Not. [01:27:41] Speaker A: They're all like, you know, same age. But these. These would be cute. Grogu is like a, you know, Yoda from Star Wars. [01:27:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:49] Speaker A: He's one of the. Those creatures and he was a baby. But I think they'll be funny together because they have like this psychological whole thing going on. And obviously Anyar can like, read my read minds and stuff. So I just thought that would be interesting. So L in Death Knight and Velma from Scooby Doo. [01:28:11] Speaker B: Because Velma is very outgoing and Elle's very introverted. So I think Velma, the one that wears glasses. Yeah. [01:28:18] Speaker A: Outgoing nerd. [01:28:19] Speaker B: But she's an adventurous with her nerdiness. [01:28:21] Speaker A: Yeah, but she's a nerd. Still. [01:28:22] Speaker B: She's an adventurous nerdy. [01:28:24] Speaker A: I think they'll be compatible. [01:28:25] Speaker B: I don't think so. I think she'll get bored with Elle. [01:28:27] Speaker A: Elle is very smart, though. [01:28:29] Speaker B: What? Because she can't get bored with smart people. [01:28:33] Speaker A: And she likes Shaggy too. [01:28:35] Speaker B: There we go. [01:28:36] Speaker A: So you want to skip it? [01:28:37] Speaker B: You should get bored. [01:28:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Give me light. [01:28:39] Speaker B: Okay. [01:28:40] Speaker A: And Daenerys Targaryen. [01:28:42] Speaker B: They would hate each other. They would hate each other, but they would be in a partnership. They wouldn't be. They wouldn't love each other. It would be a partnership. [01:28:51] Speaker A: It would be like put those political marriages. [01:28:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:53] Speaker A: And they would. To be honest, I feel like they would rule. Well, that's why I said they would. [01:28:56] Speaker B: Work together because they understand the good. [01:28:59] Speaker A: You'll be one minute from writing her name in the Death Note. She would be one minute from sending her dragons to burn him alive. You know what? Ah. So, you know, the amount of time that it takes him to write her name is pretty much the amount of time. It would just be like the Kaise. [01:29:16] Speaker B: Exactly. Their sense of moral justice is very great. [01:29:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:22] Speaker B: Very great. [01:29:23] Speaker A: Very, very much so. [01:29:24] Speaker B: But they understand each other, so. Yeah. [01:29:26] Speaker A: Okay. So I'm also just realizing you have not seen Chainsaw Man. [01:29:30] Speaker B: No. [01:29:31] Speaker A: So, Shuri. Oh, have you seen Dr. Stone? [01:29:35] Speaker B: No. [01:29:35] Speaker A: Okay. Shuri and Dr. Stone. Senku. Senku is like the main guy. He's super, like, inventing, inventy. Just like Shuri. He's also kind of funny, morally. Like, he's green. I'd say he's very fight for my friends. My friends. My friends. Love of my friends. Everything. Everything. So I'd say they would actually work quite well together because they'll be so smart. They'd invent so many things. My God, they could rule the world. Also, Chainsaw man is out. Denji and Harley Quinn. But you know Denji, though, he's the main guy in Chainsaw Mind. The one who was he who literally turns into the Chainsaw. [01:30:18] Speaker B: Okay. [01:30:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I just thought that that was an interesting couple. He's very. His. Who. Who was his favorite crush again, you should watch. To be honest, you should actually watch Chainsaw Man. It's actually quite interesting. I think he could actually enjoy it. But, yeah, I ship them. I ship them. Levi and Jessica Pearson from Suits. [01:30:41] Speaker B: They would work well together, you think? He's an organized man. He likes a man that she can take control of. He likes. He does. I am gonna use my imagination and imagine that Leva can take instructions. Well, there we go. [01:30:55] Speaker A: That's my answer. Okay, so you ship them. [01:30:59] Speaker B: I do. [01:31:00] Speaker A: Okay. I'm not so sure about them, to be honest. [01:31:02] Speaker B: The only thing is, I know Jessica likes tall men, and Levi's not a tall man, so. [01:31:05] Speaker A: Hey, hey, hey. Short kings deserve love to you. [01:31:08] Speaker B: I'm just saying, from Jessica's first family, you never know. [01:31:10] Speaker A: She could change her mind for the one and only Levi. [01:31:12] Speaker B: Yeah, Levi would fight with her. [01:31:17] Speaker A: He would. [01:31:17] Speaker B: Very generous. Yeah. [01:31:19] Speaker A: And yeah, that's the end of this episode. Thank you very much for listening. [01:31:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that's it. So with the existence of all these dating shows and whatnot, does it encourage you to date more, or does it just make you exhausted of this whole dating dating nonsense? What are your favorite DC characters, and how would you have rated the characters? I would rate it so far in one piece. And what pairings should we do next? Let us know in the comments below. And if you've enjoyed this, don't forget to, like, follow, subscribe, Leave us a review, all of that, and you can catch us on YouTube, on TikTok, and wherever you get. 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